My Lai massacre

I cant really say that was real ocupation,maybe betther exsample is french and UK colonies ower the world.And WW II is completly diferent thing from this modern ones.Only good way is divide and conquer,put ur own gowerment,and leth them to deal with resistance u just financialy support them.

 

They were just upset and took it WAY to far.

 

when tito passed on and the balkans were once again "balkanized". serb militias coined a new term "ethnic cleansing" the serbs were the cleansers ..others , mostly bosnian muslims were the rubbish to be hauled ...wholesale rape ,murder, even starving inmates in concentration camps ..after 3 or 4 years ,public outcry in the us demanded the clintons do something.... mabey too little too late but oh well ..the idea that nato went to war in serbia so that we could buy eastern block smokestack industries cheap is the most absurd post ive seen in this forum ...ever......tiso ,i think even you might agree that this post ( sinissas) could well earn an honorary tinfoil hat..

 

U sow it on news?

Interesting event heapen in Belgium.A TV proclamed that Belgium brake up,that royal family fleed,gues what? 89% population bolive it.

And btw,US did buyed nearly all major factories,with much lower price from real one.And US go in wars for their own interests only.Anyway we discused it b4....

 

Where is your source establishing this "fact"; that the US bought "nearly all major factories.with much lower price from real one".

BTW..That statement alone exposes your ignorance of economics.
There is no "real price".
Value, thus price is established by what a willing buyer is willing to pay and what a willing seller is willing to accept. Those factors are what determines price, nothing else.
As far as the US motivation for fighting wars you have presented nothing but your own opinion which is obviously extremely biased.

 

http://www.forbes.com/markets/bonds/newswire/2003/06/26/rtr1012181.html
http://www.antikorupcija-savet.sr.gov.yu/eng/view.jsp?articleId=60
Here is about once biggest steel producter on this side of EU.

 

First off that refers to one case, one organization. A far cry from "nearly all major factories". Second, the fact that US steel purchased a bankrupt
Serbian steel production facility doesn't prove corruption. The Austrain, German and French banks contesting the sale have a strong financial interest in trying to obtain the assets of the company in order to try and recoup their losses. Whether or not they should prevail in such a case is up to the courts. Don't blame US companies for the corruption that is rampant in Serbia and all over that part of the world. It was there before the US companies and will likley be there long after.

 

There was few more interest buyers but tender was newer made,as u see there US steel buyed it as privileged buyer,and they buy it for much lower price (coz there was no licitation) so real walue was newer reach coz of that.

 

How do you have any idea what the "real value" of that company is?
Even if such a thing existed (real value in some absolutist sense) what would be the value of a company with (it is reported) 1.6 billion dollars in outstanding debt? To know that you would also have to know the market value of all of it's assets and outstanding orders in order to offset the debt.
The Austrian, French and German banks who wish to recover as much as possible of their failed investment in the company have a strong financial interest in overvaluing the company's assets. The US company is now investing in Serbia when they purchase that company, just as the European banks invested when they loaned the company money. If the company were stripped of all assets which were shipped to the US then you might have a case to present in regards to US Steel.
If you don't have a good grasp of business and finance then what criteria are you using to judge the transaction?

 

U got companies who do that for living,evaluation of some property,and u seen there what was their evaluation,there r included debths.Yugoslavia was in top 3 EU for exporting and producting steel in late 80's so that can say something about capacity.

he biggest public uproar last year was caused by the privatization, the sale of the Smederevo “Sartid” ironworks under receivership, purchased along with other six subsidiaries by US Steel Košice, part of the US Steel conglomerate. The selling price of US$21.3 million seemed pretty low to many, especially after it was learned that US Steel Košice had not taken over the “Sartid” debts estimated at that time to US$ 1.7 billion. By all accounts, the sale involved major corruption in which the highest government

as u see,they did not take debth.

 

You are just quoting from the article as though their conclusions (regarding corruption) were established legal fact. That may or may not be the case. If it is established that corruption occurred then it apparently involved the entire Serbian government from the Prime Minister on down.
As I stated previously corruption isn't new in Serbia and your blaming of the US for Serbian corruption is silly. Fix things in your own country before you start pointing fingers at others. You claimed that the US government was behind the corruption by starting wars in order to buy up Serbian assets,( never mind the fact that it was the UN and not the US alone that was involved in that region in the 1990s) and you point out one US corporation possibly taking advantage of the corrupt Serbian government as though it proves your thesis.

 

Oh and you also neglected to metion that the Higher Court in Serbia approved of the deal. It sounds like there may be problems of corruption in Serbia however it also sounds like they are internal problems that the Serbians need to deal with. Clean up your house then you can critisize the houses of others.

 

well yes ,sin ..i mostly get my news from news organizations ..at that time it was newsweek ,time, nbc ,cbs,the bbc ,rueters...the stories of serbian brutality were to be seen all over the worlds news...i guess they (the world press) were all in the conspirecy with us steel to steal serbian steel though , right ? ....btw , ive tried collecting news transmissions from outer space by wearing a tinfoil hat , alas ,i never hear a dang thing ,perhaps im not folding the hat correctly ...could you post a diagram?

 

Ok, enough tin-foil hat jokes. It is not conducive to a good debate.

 

U just been American.I wanna to show u CNN article and pictures how serbs killed croat civilians,and proof that was actualy serbs not croats?When embargo started against serbia,reason was shelling of Sarajevo market,but not so long after that UN balistic determined that shell came from bosnian muslim side?ues what,ur news sucks.
Problem with that (US stell and sartid) is that there was buyer who offered alot more,but they did not made tender,they just chit-chat agreement with US steel.And what u think why sartid fall in debth (maybe embargo got something with that?),phillip-moris buyed all tobbaco industry(2 major factories) they indeed payed real price but befor the war that prica was 5 time higher.

 

sinissa , the shell that fell on a market place full of muslim civillians was jast the last horrid event in a long sequence of atrocitys,if the muslims accidently shelled there own down town area and the serbs got the blame...oh well...the serbs were in controll of most of the yugoslavian heavy weapons and were useing them to good effect...if the world press wrongly reported some of the wars events ,it doest change the other 90% of serb sponsered atrocitys that the press reported correctly ...if the muslim bosnians controlled all the hardware and were rapeing and butchering helpless serb civillians , the worlds press would have attcked the bosnians {and you can bet it would have happined a lot sooner )...the nato nations being overwhelmingly christians ....culturally ,at least..

 

Actualy it was mortar shell,and it is not heawy artilery and all sides had it plenty,but interesting,that was reason for embargo on Serbia,same as in Kosovo,when they find 24 dead in wilage Racak,that was reason for NATO agression,and later was proven that 22 from 24 fired from weapon recently (paraphin test),and they all was presented as civilians who was excecuted,but they wounds was combat wounds not close range excecuting wounds,and allso 3 policeofficers die there in combat,so it was hardly that was west presentet to be.And accidently shelling in by bosnians in midlle of city under their control,hardly.Serbian forces was not closer then 10km at least,and on that market was alot ppl,so serbs newer shell it right?
First u check things,then u speak about them,othervise u can turn off stupid

 

sinissa ,you may well be right about the marketplace shelling and the racak incident...it really doesnt matter , those may have been the two straws that "broke the camels back" but its the other previous ten tons of straw that were plainly loaded on the camel by the serb militias that actually prompted natos actions...

 

In Anotther topic i provide evidences that NATO violate several internatiol laws and conventions including their own,( thet NATO will newer attack anotther country and that is strickly defensive pact) so i will not do that again.

Just,can u explain militias? My english is not so good,i think that militia-paramilitary formations?

 

mi·li·tia –noun
1. a body of citizens enrolled for military service, and called out periodically for drill but serving full time only in emergencies.
2. a body of citizen soldiers as distinguished from professional soldiers.
3. all able-bodied males considered by law eligible for military service.
4. a body of citizens organized in a paramilitary group and typically regarding themselves as defenders of individual rights against the presumed interference of the federal government.

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