ISU-152 Question

Hi all,

One question about the Russian AT monster called ISU-152. Actually, I'm building a model of this tank but to paint it accurately I need to know:
Did the wheels (both road weels and track return rollers) have rubber rims, or were they fully metal/steel?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Greets,
PP

 

full steel

Kris

 

Thanks!

Anyone in for second opinion?

 

Acctualy they were suposed to have wery thin rubber coating but that wore off rapidly, so full steel is OK.

 

OK so I'm going to do that. Thanks a lot guys!

 

Another question about the ISU 152, or more about Russian tanks in general:
Did Russian tanks carry spare wheels, like some german tanks like the Pz III did?
Perhaps someone has a picture? Would be very helpful. Thanks!

 

Normally no. There are some exceptions like SU-76i (same as PzKpfW-III), T-70, Su-76 and Su-76M. I haven't seen a pic with T-34, KV or IS with spare wheel, but that doesn't mean that it is impoossible.

 

And T-28.

 

Wow guys, thanks! Great pics there

So you think it wouldn't be much of a distortion of the truth to put a spare wheel on it's back?

 

Looking what tank. If it Т-70 - that there the place of fastening of a spare wheel is stipulated, if it ISU-152 there such place is not present. Independently crews of tanks if I am not mistaken, did not hang skating rinks. Sorry for the bad english

 

I say go for it.Everybody else did it.I'm some Russian crews did as well.

 

As i said up untill now i haven't seen a pic Of IS or ISU-152 with spare wheel. On the back plate of the engine you only have tow rope.

I checked Exprint and TBiU book but most what you get are folded canvas coveres etc. no spare wheels.

 

The ISU-152 should not have the spare skating rinks. Here that on it was:

 

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I can't say that I have ever looked at a picture of one that had spare wheels. Come to think of it, I don't remember seeing pictures of any USSR tanks that had much equipment on them. They all seem rather plain.

 

Hi guys!
Nice to see the modellers are around here too

It seems that the opinions on adding spare wheels are divided. It would seem kinda cool to me, but indeed there seems to be very little room and I'd like to stick to reality as most as I can as well...

Here's a the pic you saw a couple of posts above, with some numbers in it to explain the backside of my model a little. It looks exactly thesame as this picture, so I thought let's clearify it a bit. here goes:



1= The tank does carry some extra's on its side. Among the tools are a shovel and some other stick, a boxlike thing and so forth.
2= these would be the exhausts as far as I can tell. cetrainly no room for spare wheels here. Though the Stug III carries spares on it's airintakes... :roll:
3= My model carries some more extra fuel drums here, they came with the set.
4= all these fuel drums are present.
5= the towing cables you mentioned are present as well.

So on second thought, there may be very little room left after all

 

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A possible explonation
During the second part of the war , the soviet were on the offence
It doesn't make much sense for soviet tanks to carry spare wheels , since they were advancing , their rear echelon was full of broken tanks ready to be scavenged .if a tank broke no big deal , make some tea , smoke a papyros and wait , I't good to be out of the shooting .
The problem was reversed for the germans ,any damaged tank would be probably out of reach , it would make good sense to carry stuff to get out ,
waiting and having a smoke could get you a one way ticket to siberia !


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funny theory. really!

 

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I know it sound somewhat off
but people IMHO don't pay atention to the small details , like the flow of the war ,
soviets had to attack to free their lands , sitting on the defensive was not an options ,
It is commonly assumed that the attacker would need a three to one advantage and have large comensurate losses to make a breakthrouh ,
It also work to the attacker advantage , giving a good repair and scavenging
situation , often tanks break down for trivial reasons , the movement of the front line can cause perfectly good machines to be left behind when a couple of hours work would get them out ,
german tankists on the eastern front would probably be somewhat skeptical of the kin of support they could expect in a crisis ,waiting around for the rear echelon , probably with a lot of things to do at the worst of time
" help yourself and fortune will help you ....."


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here you have a russian book:
Тяжелые САУ Красной Армии (Бронеколлекция 2-2006) (Heavy SAU of the Red Army) dealing with ISU's