BBC accused of institutional 'trendy left-wing bias'

I'm not agreeing with that kind of rhetoric - be it the "democratic underground" or Bill O'Reilly - I'm just saying that if he had replaced the UN building with the White House there would have been an uproar in America. People only care about smear tactics, hate speech, etcetera if it is them/their party in the crosshairs.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6252290.stm

A news story that I think proves that no matter how much the American board member grumble, at least some people in the American Media have at least some intergrity. Hats off to the woman.

 

Mine, too! And it should be noted that the one person who criticized Mika and uphold Paris Hilton did so anonymously. I get so tired of meaningless, idiotic fluff being offered as news. Paris Hilton thought being in jail for a few days was traumatic? She ought to try spending a day or two in some of the more active areas of Iraq; then she'd learn the true meaning of "traumatic"!

 

OK
What is a definitin of trendy left bias BBC was accused off and to which some forum members are pointing fingers?

Is it reporting from Iraq and not reiterating US military briefings? Is it apologising to the audience for misleading, when upon follow-up those briefings are proven false? Come on please enlighten me here?

Regarding Bill O'Rilley and freedom of speach. Freedom of speach ends where it collides with rights of other man (that's why we have lawsuits against defamation). His rethoric is idiotic and downright criminal, especcialy when dealing with middle east. Inciting to war, human rights abuses... is also a crime in most civilised societies. Poeple like him should remember Julius Streicher ( to whom O'Rileys, Coulter's and sometimes Hannity's rehoric is quite similar) and what happened to him. And also some radio announcers from Ruanda who are now in jail for warcrimes (inciting to murder).

 

I see no reason why they should. It's a different situation entirely. (Streicher was wrongfully convicted and executed IMO).

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6239896.stm

You should watch OutFoxed. Question was brought up in aftermath of Jeremy Glick incident. When asked could he sue him it was said that it is difficoult becouse one has to prove that person lied deliberatly (knowing he was lieing). Bill O lies so much and so crazily that he could be described as pathological liar and as such extremly difficoult or impossible to sue.
Part of OutFoxed with Jeremy Glick (7:37):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY

Well they should. But i agree that situation is different. First one has to loose a war against a vengenfull enemy (same goes for Streicher and Ruanda group). I forgot to mention Dershowitz in this group.

Just make a little test. Take one of their speaches about muslims or palestinians (i reccomend Dershowitz or Podhoretz) and replace the Muslims with Jews (easily done in Word) and read what you get. if you try to publih it you'll have anti defamation league and World Jewish congress on your arse in no time.

 

When has Bill O'Reilly lied in one of his programs? Or one of his columns? While I don't always agree with him, I have found that he does take the time to get his facts straight. I want to see clear, specific evidence that he has lied, TISO, before I accept that. Give me specific examples, not generalities.

 

Check the YouTube link towards the end i belive from minute 5:40 onwards. That part is dealing with aftermath of the Jeremy Glick interview and his later misqoting od Jeremy.

Take his fact straight?????? BWAHAHAHA Don't make me laugh :lol:
In his zeal to defend USMC soldiers accused for murders in Haditha and slammimn Murtha he did get a few facts wrong when claiming that such acts are the norm since the ww2 and comparing them to Battle of the bulge when US masscred waffen SS prisoners at Melmedy (that's his version of history not mine) he did this twice (first time when talking about Abu Graib with Wes Clark).

For the film proof go on following sites
Both time he did it with interview with Wes Clark. Second time he did it (somewhere from minute 4:50 onward):
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/31/wesley-clark-and-oreilly/

Obermans take on this with inserts of bill o:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/01/olbermann-exposes-oreilly-on-malmedy/

 

You sidestepped the question about how many defamation of character lawsuits have been filed. What lies has O'Reilly told? Never mind other peoples opinions of O'Reilly, that doesn't prove he lied. Just point out some examples where he lied. If he lies as much as you claim it should be a simple matter.

The WJC or the ADL might complain, but so what? You are free to express your opinions even if they malign other people in our free country.

As far as the Malmedy thing goes O'Reilly had his facts wrong. It's that simple. He was wrong. There is zero evidence that he knew the facts and misstated them in fact logic tells you that it doesn't help his case at all to know that he was misstating the facts because with millions of viewers it is dead certain that if you misstate a fact (as opposed to stating your opinion) people will catch it and make you look silly.

 

Also a great way to win hearts and minds. Could, Should, Whatever. They assumed and assumption is a mother of all fuckups (as any soldier will probably tell you). BTW there were no US military forces present except for the helicopters and they were not fired upon.

Yes i sidestepped the qestion as i never said that he WAS sued but i was pointing to the fact that right to free speach is limited by rights of others. Something you diliberatly or not overlooked.

It seems that you haven't watched the youtube link i provided. Especcialy the part dealing with aftermath of Glick incident ( he accused Glick of saying the things that he did not say). Glick did ask if he could sue Bill O but got the answer from the lawyer (who BTW already won one process Franken vs. FOX) in the lines i provided in my previous post (history of crazily lying = more difficoult to sue )

As of melmedy he made the same mistake twice in span of 8 months. It would be right to conclude that after the first incident he was corrected but he did it again non the less. I was pointing this out as corpcasselbury wrote that he does take his time to get the facts straight. Obviously he should take a wee bit more time.

 

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol:
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/07/oreilly-and-pistol-packin-mamas.html
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/news/item.jsp?site_area=1&aid=274

 

i had heard that us troops sometimes shoot ss pows after the malmedy murders came to light ...B.O. was incorrect about us troops killing ss men at melmedy ...is that it? ...BO had a former cop on that over dramatized a gay lesbian gangs alleged attacks ...is that it ? he misquoted some guy named glick ...THOSE ARE THE HORRENDOUS SCANDOLOUS LIES OF BILL O??? ...are you kidding me ?he has been on tv hundreds of times about hundreds of subjects and he got a quote wrong ,had a guest on of dubious credibilty ,had a ww2 factoid wrong ...thats all you got ?really tiso , i consider you a debater and historian of fearsome skill and ability ,,the darth vader of the left in this forum ...and you do it all in a foreign language to boot !!! ...but really ...this stuff here is the cause of all your bile and loathing of bill o and the factor....weak , pallid , untiso worthy....i still await any evidence of retarded opines from bill o ....anyone ? cmon , the guy goes on tv almost every nite and has to bite into someone somewhere surely he must have made some mistakes .....hateing the guy because of his facial expresions seems ...well ..kinda ...like some bubble gum popping waitress or ditzy shopgirl kinda vapid point ...like britney or paris would say ...oh i dont like him cause he is not cute ...i like tom cruise ...now he is sooo cute ...BAHAHAHAHA.. I LIKE PRETTY YOUNG WOMEN AS MUCH AS THE NEXT GUY BUT REALLY ...who cares what they think...

 

Well if someone wants to know someones elses fuck-ups one has to go to the poeple that doesn't like him.
Go to:
http://mediamatters.org/

And use search function for O'reiley or go directly:
http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/people/billoreilly