I may have mentioned before that when in Las Vegas last autumn I fired off a few mags. through a Tommy and a Schmeisser MP 40. From the choice offered to me I chose to use a full sized picture of Bin-Laden as my target, and the tommy and MP shredded him but good ! Bringing the remnants of the target home ( as you would ! ),I had nowhere to put it in my house, so, when visiting some houses I own and rent out, I asked a bunch of students (military college) if they would like it pinned up on a wall in one of their flats. They were very happy to have it, and up it went on a kitchen door. This morning I got a visit from the police !! Apparently one of the guys had brought some totty back to the flat late on Saturday. The two girls said that they were Greek. It now transpires that they were Iranian and have complained to the police as to the picture of Osama being anti-Muslim !!! Charges may be laid against me ! What pisses me off, is not just the ratfink girls, but the blokes for dropping me in the cack !! BG
So, shredding an image of the world's arch-terrorist is anti-Muslim? I would have thought it was just anti-sh*thead! What about the Saddam Hussein target face? Is that anti-Muslim, too? Or anti-Iraqi? Or maybe anti-deceased? Hitler target face: Anti-Nazi, anti-German, or anti-nut job? Jane Fonda target face: Anti-actress, anti-traitorous b*tch, or anti-female? We could add to this list ad nauseum. Why is it that we allow anyone to claim that XXX represents all of any group?
Criminal charges? According to what statute? I would be curious to know what US jurisdiction has such clearly unconstitutional statutes on the books?
I believe from what BG has described the complaints happened in the UK rather than the US, so it could be that he's been pulled up on the Incitement of Racial Hatred laws here.
Shredding up a picture of Bin Laden is anti-muslim? It says a lot more about the girls then about a stupid crack in the law that could sentence you.
porkies BG, if you do get charged I'm sure you'll be able to tell a plausible tale from your repertoire or maybe your student friends from 'Welbeck' or 'Camberly' can put in a good word for you. :roll: I'll watch the Daily Telegraph with interest when your case comes up! :roll:
Although I have properties in Vermont, NYC and North Carolina (well, that is only a plot of land), the houses I refer to in this Osama post are actually located in Camberley, Surrey, England. Without wishing to offend, Grieg, you do sometimes kick off with knee jerk reactions and seemingly shoot first and ask questions afterwards. Should you look again, my friend, you will see nowt that is even the slightest bit anti American in this post ! After all, I have been paying close attention to our Moderator ! Cheers, BG
Re: porkies I've lost track, amigo, having been in civvy street for well over thirty years, but isn't Welbeck the Engineer's college ? My tenants aren't bright enough to be in there ! As it happens, I very much doubt that I will get charged, since-reading between the lines- the Police sergeant who came to see me told me that it is likely that the CPS will throw it out. Mind you, him being a member of my Lodge, I am pretty sure that the papers will mysteriously disappear on his way back to the Cop Shop, anyway ! Cheers, BG
The trouble is, Tom, that here in England the days are long gone when a policeman could exercise any discretion. Apart from the fact that they all work to efficiency targets, they are duty bound to investigate reports of any political incorrect activities, no matter how absurd, and then put them forward to our Crown Prosecution Service, which is an agency that is almost wholly staffed by failed lawyers who can't get a job in the real World !!!! Cheers, BG
whatever BG. Please do me the courtesy of not refering to me as 'amigo', I don't like it, I am not your amigo.
You got that right, compadre ! It does say a lot about the girls !! As I understand it from one of my tenants, he and the girls got stopped by the police when they went out to look for a taxi at about 3 o/clock in the morning. Since they were all well bladdered, and when searched by the Police, a pair of one of the girls knickers was found in my tenant's pocket, the girl's all became hysterical and, obviously concerned as to what their parents would say, then blew the gaff on dear old Osama hanging up by his shredded nuts on the kitchen wall ! Frankly, with this in mind, I am surprised not to have been charged with owning a knocking shop ! Cheers, BG '
I asked out of academic interest since such a statute would be clearly unconstitutional in the US. I'm left to wonder why you apparently feel the need to bring up the same issue in response to nearly every post I make?
Oh, for Crying Out Loud, Grieg, did you not lay yourself wide open for such a response as mine !? Who was it ?, I think that it was Roosevelt, who said that the saving graces of Americans is that they have large senses of humour and wide scales of proportion. Why not live up to that great man's utterances ? I'll declare a truce if you will, and we'll both be the better for it ! Cheers, BG
Re: whatever Had I thought of it, I might have guessed that you would take offence at that, since there are no greater sensibilities than those found in the Sergeant's mess. Of course you are not my bloody amigo and nobody is happier of that than I am; it was merely a turn of phrase and if we cease to lock horns then neither of us will find the need to refer to each other at all ! Cheers, BG
If what Bozzie here is saying is true, then I'm left wondersing just who Britain's new 'terror laws' are effectively protecting
I don't see why. My response of: seems entirely appropriate to me. As a Jeffersonian Liberal/ Libertarian/ Randian (take your pick, or all of the above) I take a keen interest in any situation in the US that smacks of state tyranny or state usurpation of Constitutionally guaranteed individual liberties. Since you didn't specify where this occurred and you have spoken of living in the US previously I think it was a reasonable assumption that you were speaking of events that occurred in the US. Maybe Roosevelt said that and maybe there is some grain of truth in it but usually I think it is unwise for members of any group to discuss their own alleged virtues. In any case inasmuch as I am not at war with you I can hardly declare a truce. Any war with me is without my consent or voluntary participation. The only request I make is to stop painting me with a broad brush of ultra nationalism or extreme chauvinism. If you can point to objective evidence of my holding such views then I consider it fair game within the accepted debating rules of the forum to do so but if it is merely expressing your unsupported opinion that I belong in such an extremist camp then you should declare a truce and cease fire. ps- I would point out to others that have expressed the opinion that I'm an ultra patriot that as long as I'm posting reasonably supportable facts(if source isn't cited I will try and supply them upon request) or opinions that I'm willing to debate in a rational manner without name calling or undue ad hominem then feel free to attack my opinions with rational arguments as to your opinion or reasonably supportable facts. Attack the argument not the person and we will have no wars and no need of cease fires.
I had heard that things had gotten pretty bad in the UK insofar as PC went, but I have to say that I'm astonished by this one. How on earth anyone with an ounce of either sanity or good sense could even consider pressing criminal charges against someone for shooting up a paper target of Osama bin-laden is beyond me. As Grieg has noted, doing so here in the USA would be perfectly legal and likely applauded. Oh, some left winger might get their underwear in an uproar about it, but that would be all. Bosworth, I would suggest that in the future, whenever you decide to indulge in the noble pastime of shooting up Osama, throw the paper targets away after you do so; you'll save yourself an infinity of trouble. Either that, or move to the USA, where you can tell anyone who doesn't like it to kiss your foot! BTW, where in North Carolina is that plot of land you own? I'm curious to see if it's near where I live.