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Corona Virus - How is that working for you?

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  1. KodiakBeer

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    And now they've done ANOTHER even larger antibody study in the biggest hot spot (New York). The results confirm the earlier studies, about 15% of the people in that state are positive for the antibodies. With a population of 20 million, 3 million people have had the virus with 12,000 fatalities.

    The death rate is negligible. The population as a whole is quite safe and restrictions can be lifted for working age people.

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    Ummm...No.

    In a press conference on Sunday March 19, Cuomo called on them to build. On March 25, he issued his decree to use NHs. The virus moved faster than the Corp.

    Also, what the Corp converted, such as the Javits Center(completed April 1) are for Non-COVID patients, to free up beds in hospitals for COVID patients.
     
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    12000 KIA is negligible? According to official government value of a life number that's $120,000,000,000 worth of citizens.

    I'm trying to walk in your mocs. On an average weekday, how many different people do you have contact with? I'll probably engage in conversation 25-30 a day, mostly people I don't know. Because of my location on the map, all of them possibly infected.
     
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    They are available for any use Coumo chose to use them for. It's his state, he's the governor. He chose to discharge these infectious patients from hospitals to nursing homes.

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    I'm from NY. Where was all the housing available?. What location?
     
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    Yes, 12,000 is negligible when measured against 20 million. You know, arithmetic. 3500 of that 12,000 in New York were nursing home patients killed off by the governor, so that brings it down to 8,500 if you only count patients not killed by stupidity.

    And among that number that died, the average age is well above 70.

    So, what if we had concentrated our resources into shielding the aged and sick, those at risk from the virus? We might have reduced the fatalities to zip.

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    The beds the federal government built. The Mercy. Or, to their own homes with visiting nurses. There's a lot of ways to do this. He chose the WORST possible way.

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    Please back up your statement by answering my questions. Or rant on . Top down on the Jeep. Heading out to meet people with mygloves and mask on
     
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    You said Fed beds available. Where were 1000s of beds? Cuba? Phoenix? West Point?
     
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    Ummm...If the Corp cannot complete a barebones hospital conversion of th we Javits Center in the limited time frame. What makes you think that they can convert it into a biohazard facility faster? They could not do it, and the hospitals would have been even more overcrowded for a longer period of time.
     
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    The Hospital Ships? That was a Charlie Foxtrot from the word Go.

    They were not hospital ships, but hotels.
    Defeats the purpose of using them.
     
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    Were for Non-COVID patients, only during the worst, did the become COVID-19 only.

    Comfort...Mercy is on the West Coast.
    They were also not taking COVID patients. Or those with 49 other medical conditions. It took about a week, and the worst of the storm, before agreeing to treat COVID-19 patients. A 1,000 bed hospital ship treated only 182 patients.

    Red Tape made Comfort useless in this crisis.

    Visiting nurses are only there a few hours a day. My grandfather had one for a time before he passed. The either, I, my mother, or my aunt would go out and spend time with him. You would need a live-in nurse, to be there 24-7, and they would have to be medically trained.

    Basically, just give all the elderly those medic-alert fobs...Help! I've fallen and can't get up!

    0 for 3...At least Cuomo is 0 for 1.
     
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    New York city!
     
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    The Comfort did take some Covid patients after Coumo asked, and the other onshore beds could have as well. None of this was set in stone. Conversely, he could have used those beds for recovering surgical patients and what-have-you, to free up hospital beds for recovering Covid patients. OR, could have discharged them home with visiting nurses.

    He did none of that. He stuck those infected patients into nursing homes and exposed the most vulnerable people to the virus. 3500 deaths. 3500 lawsuits awaiting disposition.

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    Old people dying is good for the GNP. I keep hearing that. If enough people die it will be over. I've heard that.. No more deaths than the regular flu. It will go away with warming temps. I think we need to pick a side here or it's a pissing contest.

    I'm all for me not dying so I have an admitted bias.
     
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    I am old I guess. 75 years. I can wait a while.
     
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    Your fly is open.jpg
     
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