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USMC detachments on usn ships

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  1. Mr Bruh

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    Did the marines have a detachment on every USN ship ? Or was it only the big ships ?
     
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    Cruisers, Carriers, Battleships.
     
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    Were cves included?
     
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    A Different War: Marines in Europe and North Africa (Introduction).

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    Marines have traditionally served as part of the complement of naval warships. In World War II, this service was confined mostly to the larger-sized ships — battleships (BB); cruisers, both heavy (CA) and light (CL); and carriers and light carriers (CV or CVL).
    Combatants: Allies of World War II"
     
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    Thanks. So ,I'll take that as a no .
     
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    Some CVEs had MCVGs . . . for examples Hollandia, Block Island, Cape Gloucester, Vella Gulf, Gilbert Islands, so you could say they had Marines on board.
     
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    Yeah. Now small boys could have Marines on board if the ship was a "fast transport", ie., a destroyer converted to carry raiders on small scale missions. Sometimes a small squad of Marines would be on a very forward deployed ship, such as the Yangtze River Patrol. "Sometimes" being the operational word there.
     
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    What are mcvgs?
     
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    But the air groups would be "tenant commands", not ship's company. Fine distinction.
     
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    ----good question ....we didn't have the manpower for that, and still populate the FMF/etc... and I thought the Marines did not man all the big guns [ just some ] , much less the AAA......I know they still had some detachments in the mid 80s.....Sea Duty [ not the FMF units ] was considered ''good'' duty--as was guard duty [ Marine Barracks ] on Naval stations on land, as I was on...but I think it's all gone now
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    True, true, Larry, not ships company . . . no spiffy orderly standing outside the Captain's cabin nor trailing him about the ship.

    Mr Bruh - MCVGs are Marine Air Groups assigned to CVEs. MCVGs were made up of two squadrons, one VMF (fighters, 20 planes either F6F or F4U and sometimes mixed) and one VMTB (torpedo bomber, 12 TBMs)
     
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    Thanks for clarifying.
     

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