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    "The crew of Douglas Boston Mark III, W8376 'C', of No 24 Squadron, South African Air Force, walking away from their aircraft on an airfield in Libya after a sortie. 1942"
     
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    "HMS Victory moments before being rammed by the ironclad HMS Neptune on 23rd October 1903. She was hit on her port side with the bow ram impacting the Orlop Deck after the ironclad broke free of her tow cables while on her way to being scrapped. [1200x594]"
     
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    "Elco 80-foot torpedo boat PT-130 at cruising speed as seen from PT-143, 1944-45. Note Mark XIII aerial torpedoes, Bofors 40mm gun aft, and 37mm cannon forward on PT-130 and Oerlikon 20mm gun in foreground.[921x647]"
     
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    "[1911X1391] La Spezia Naval Base, 30 March 1943. Italian Battleship Vittorio Veneto fires her forward turret guns during in-port artillery practice."
     
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    "The Soviet experimental heavy self propelled gun S-51 in in battle position. A previously repaired KV-1S was used as the chassis. Gorohovets provin grounds, Russia, early March 1944."
     
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    "USS Mississippi (BB-41), 1945 [5674x4444]."
     
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    "Abercrombie-class monitor HMS Raglan towed leaving H&W shipyard shortly after completion, June 1915 [1917x1171]."
     
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    This illustrates the inconstancy of the treaty system. The Clevelands and Brooklyns were comparable in size to most of their 8" contemporaries and superior in armor to most of them.

    It seems for example a bit foolish to suggest that the Furataka class are "heavier" than the Brooklyns.

    I like to use "light cruiser" for distinctly lighter ships like the Atlanta, Agano, Arethusa, or Condottieri types.

    6" vs. 8" guns depended largely on circumstances. 8" had an advantage in hitting power at long range, assuming suitable visibility. In shorter range situations like the night battles in the Solomons, the more numerous, faster-firing 6" could have the edge.
     
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    The classification of gun cruisers was based on the guns mounted. 6" guns meant "light" cruiser and 8" guns meant "heavy cruiser". As always, displacement was routinely a joke when it came to limitations.
     
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    A reminder that I don't write the captions in quotes. Good thinking however, we all need to remember the costs of war.
     
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    USS Hornet (CV-8) underway in Hampton Roads, Virginia, October 1941………….
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    I see, thought it was your grandfather.
     
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    Gunners would tie crew chutes to the waist gun mounts and manually eject and open them on hydraulic failures.
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    Why are they noting the obvious equipment?
    But make no mention of the non-standard rocket launcher located just forward of the Mark 13 torpedo.
     
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    Levels of knowledge and expertise vary widely across the web. Me, I'm still reading.
     
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    That is a cool photo
     
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    I'd call the Atlanta an AA cruiser, or maybe just a heavy destroyer?
    I always think of 5in guns being DD guns, 6in light cruiser, 8in heavy cruiser.
    11in and bigger is when it gets confusing... If I go by WW2 standards,
    HMS Hood is 15in with thin armour, clearly a battlecruiser.
    USS Alaska with 12in is classified as a large cruiser, although I'd sort of cover them as battlecruisers as well.
    Scharnhorst with 11in is confusing, although I'd call 15in Gneisenau a battlecruiser. Considering Scharnhorst was supposed to receive 15in guns as well.
    Graf Spee is just a frankencruiser...
     
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    "Japanese battleships Mutsu, Ise and Fuso in battle formation for practices. (1534x1080)"
     
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    "A6M3 Model 32 Zero, a hybrid assembled by Allied personnel from the wreckage of at least three Zeros captured at Buna Airfield, New Guinea. Shown here at Wright Field, Ohio, Feb 1944."
     
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    "Demolition men of the US 3rd Marine Raider Battalion, gathered in front of a Japanese dugout they had helped to take at Cape Torokina on Bougainville in the Solomon Islands, January 1944."

    I didn't know Adam Sandler served.
     
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