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2240 yard shot(s) with iron sights ---a Guinness record

Discussion in 'Small Arms and Edged Weapons' started by the_diego, Sep 29, 2021.

  1. the_diego

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  2. CAC

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    I'd love to know his procedures...
     
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    that is impressive for an older weapon and calibre. Now the Russians are claiming they have a 4 KM rifle. We do too if you consider the old Nato 105 gun on the M60 tank.

    Deadly New Russian Sniper Rifle Can Kill A Target 4 Kilometres Away

    Since that Russian rifle is over 10 kg, I wonder how it stands up against a Finnish Lahti 20 mm AT rifle? Put a scope on that and I bet it can reach out to 5 km.
     
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    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    I will check the Lahti 20 mm AT rifle. Cheers
     
  5. Carronade

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    So if I fire a thousand shots at a target 3000 yards away and get a couple of hits, do I have a record? There needs to be some rule, similar to shooting sports at the Olympics or ISSF, say five shots and a hit gets you the record.
     
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    Sorry, but not that impressed. His first hit finally comes at shot 58. 4 hits with 77-80some shots.
    Full video here:
     
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    Lahti L-39

    Lahti L-39 - Wikipedia

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    That is all I found....

    During the Winter War, Finland suffered from the lack of anti-tank weapons . Only two rifles and a few 20 mm 13.2 mm machine guns were sent to the front, where machine guns proved ineffective and unreliable, while the 20 mm guns successfully fought Soviet tanks. The gun was also widely used in the tactic "Cold Charlie ", which employed a Finnish dummy to simulate an officer checked out, which attracted the Soviet sniper fire, then the Lahti L -39 was used to eliminate the Soviet sniper .

    Lahti L-39 "Norsupyssy"
     
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    Still, the Schmidt-Rubins (both the K11 and 31 versions) were well made, actually VERY well made, rifles. They have a well known reputation for accuracy. The distance fired is well over a mile and getting even four hits on a target a yard wide is pretty impressive. The two most accurate military rifles in my battery are my Schmidt-Rubin and my 6.5X55 Swedish Mauser made in 1917. The fact that both came from neutral countries is not a coincidence. Both countries had time to invest in making accurate rifles and the Swiss have a long tradition of fine workmanship AND marksmanship!
     
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    The more accurate and better penetration the better. Whatever the country.
     
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    I remember there was a Lahti in a gunstore San Leandro, Californiastan. Those were the days when you could buy a Boyes or Lahti. As a college age kid I was too poor to buy one of those.

    There are numerous images of that AT in use during the Winter War.

    Kai-Petri - where did you learn about Cold Charlie?
     
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    Reminds me of the Indian at the Siege of Fort Meigs. He was armed with a flintlock rifle and it took him several days to figure out his hold to shoot an American. Initially he was ignored but after he hit his second man, Elijah Kirk of the Kentucky Detached Militia was given permission to shoot back. It took Kirk several shots too but he finally got his man.

    Now, if that same shooter with the Schmidt Rubin would try again, how many shots for him to repeat his feat? Certainly it may have taken 57 tries before he finally makes it, but I suspect that it would be much quicker if he tried again. The issue is repeatability. If he was a sniper though, he would have been stonked.
     
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    You guys guys miss the point. The two variables here are the rifle's precision and the shooter's accuracy. Given more than one hit, it implies that shooter's accuracy is the limiting factor, not the rifle itself. And regardless, a hit is a hit. Do you count the amount of ammo you expended or the number of enemy planes you shot down?
     
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    What impresses me is how accurate is the weapon and shooter over shorter distances? What about a thousand yards? If you imagine post apocalyptic scenarios involving civilians with weapons (like i do)...this bloke is lethal, and not one to get into a shoot out with...he could take you out and you wouldn't even see him. No optical sights, a bare rifle. Lethal. Firing accurately isn't magic, its a skill that needs many hours to hone...and many more to keep. I find this very impressive.
     
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    " Cold Charlie " was from the site I sent with the posting above.
     

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