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Dadedy's Ike Jacket stripes

Discussion in 'Medals, Insignia, Badges & Recalls' started by Victory 1504, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. Victory 1504

    Victory 1504 recruit

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    My father served with the 630th Tank Destroyer Battalion attached to the 28th Division. He was a sergeant ( Gun Commander ). He was wounded late in the war when his self-propelled ( open-turret ) gun was hit by a panzerfaust.

    There is a forest green horizonal stripe or bar ( fabric ) below his sergeant stripes on both sleeves. There was no such thing when I served 20 years later. I have never found anyone who knows what it is called or what it means. PLEASE TELL ME !
     

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  2. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    I think that is a combat leader stripe, the forerunner of the current "leadership tab" . I am looking for the hard dates it was in use and when it was specifically issued.

    Found it:

     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Good find Brad. I don't think I've ever seen that before. You got me this time.
     
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  4. Spartanroller

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    New to me too.
     
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    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    Good find Brad!
     
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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Never say/ask "PLEASE TELL ME !" to a Marine. Outstanding Brad!
     
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    I've been struggling to find any photos at all showing these stripes - it may just be a coincidence but I'm wondering if they weren't worn very much - perhaps the command positions changed too quickly to be worth sewing it on usually.

    It certainly sounds like it was widespread enough, just not seeing it in photos.

    anyone any theories?
     
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    Enemy snipers might like to shot those guys with the gray/green bars or with the officer insignia? Just a guess...
     
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    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    That sound plausible, the snipers (on all sides) did tend to pick the target which would most disrupt the enemy's command and control structure if possible.
     
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    I was thinking that as a sniper you wouldn't not shoot someone with chevrons just because he didn't have the leadership stripe? certainly possible men could have thought that, but seems unlikely would change anything?
     
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  11. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    As far as guesses go you were right in the pickle barrel:

    So according to that it was advised to remove all insignia except for the CLI.

    Another example of the useless crap I have floating around my brain housing group.
     
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  13. Spartanroller

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    Nice to get a mystery like this solved for future generations and recorded where it can be found and passed on. Kudos to Brad :)
     
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    That's the first I have heard of that as well. I had thought that the only command designators was the horizontal white hashmarks on the back of the helmet denoted NCOs and the vertical white stripe was for officers.

    Great find there dude! Ok, take five, smoke'em if you got'em, and get back to work.
     
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