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  1. barrow

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    I read a few months ago there was going to be a remake of the said film,I would like to see a remake of Sink the Bismark.What film's would the rest of you like to see remade
     
  2. Richard

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    Sure the FX will be better but modern actor's are not as good as the classic actor's of the 1950's to the 1970's and most modern films are designed to be nothing more than a fast buck.

    PS: I'm not knocking Clint Eastwood's two films he directed, but of course Eastwood comes from a better age of actor's so he knows how to do a better job at directing and get the best out of the actor's.

    PS: On saying that DOWNFALL was one hell of a great film.
     
  3. barrow

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    I admit today's actors are not as good but today's special effects would make up so much for that ' band of brothers' series was a good effort
     
  4. Martin Bull

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    Computer FX are great but somehow just can't make up for that 'real pilots flying real aircraft' veracity.

    As is well-known, the Lancasters in the original 'Dam Busters' were very real and when the Director realised that low-flying at 60ft didn't look that spectacular on film, the RAF pilots simply went back and did it again...at 30ft.

    Richard also has a good point...in the original movie, the Director's job was made easier by the fact that almost the entire cast had served in the Armed Forces, either in WWII or in National Service. Therefore the mannerisms, speech, saluting, attitudes etc came naturally and didn't have to be 'acted'.
     
  5. bigfun

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    Re-makes are nice as you stated barrow, due to the advances in FX, but what worries me as well as what you guys have already mentioned is the revisionist aspect. Directors make movies based on their view of what it should be. Therefore classics that get re-made might be a compltetly different! Personally, I'll take the old version!
     
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    For Martin especially:

    Did you know that several scenes from Dambusters, were incorporated into scenes in one of the parts to the epic movie: The Winds of War.

    Robert Mitchums character: Captain Victor "Pug" Henry, was sent to England on some mission for President F.D.R and wound up being invited on a nighttime raid as an extra passenger in an RAF Bomber. When the scene arrives where the German Flak opens up on them, you can see used in the background, many sequences from Dambusters.

    This movie also took many liberties from other war movies such as: The Longest Day, To Hell and Back, Cross of Iron, Tora Tora Tora, Midway, Battle of the Bulge, Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo, Sink the Bismarck and I think possibly some from Dunkirk (which I will find out soon enough ;-)) and Sand of Iwo Jima.
     
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    Hey! I got an idea. Tom Cruise could get to the film and he would have the main part as well...he could be one of the Upkeep bombs....

    Now I´m being nasty but what can you do....

    Sorry all Cruise fans !!
     
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    I don't remember when I read about it but do remember it was on the IMDB site. Anyway, rumors had been circulating around that Tom Cruise was supposed to play Erich Hartmann ina movie about the famed Ace of Aces. Sadly though, Cruise was the one chosen to portray Colonel Count von Stauffanberg.
     
  9. Martin Bull

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    ...and the rumours that Tom Cruise was to portray Billy Fiske in the Battle of Britain have mercifully subsided.....;)
     
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    Im glad to hear this as well. I haven't been a fan of Tom Cruise for about 20 years and only then because of the Girlfriend I had at that time.
     
  11. Martin Bull

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    Reports have appeared in the UK press this week that British actor James McAvoy is seriously being considered for the role of Gibson.

    That's actually quite good news ; McAvoy resembles Gibson and his performance in Atonement was excellent ( by far the best thing about that film...)
     
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    I would like to see a remake of Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo, preferably one that bears a bit more of a resemblence to the book than to the original Hollywood film. To Hell and Back would be another one I would like to see remade. Once again I would like it to follow the original book more closely. The original book, To Hell and Back, was much to violent and graphic to be faithfully and fully potrayed on film in the 1950's.
     
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    The only one I'd like to see re-made is 'Battle Of The Bulge'. The real events were so dramatic that if only Hollywood could tell it 'straight', using SPR-type filming techniques, then it could be a classic.

    The original has to be one of the hammiest disappointments ever......:(
     
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    While on the subject of remakes, how about a remake of: Enemy at the Gates? :lol:
     
  15. barrow

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    'Battle of the bulge' would be an intresting one MB the part in the original where they came across the lunatic asylum and the patients where all laughing at the British troops as if they knew what was in store for them.
     
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    how in the world could you even with todays high standards of graphics portray the Battle of the Bulge in one movie ? maybe a set of 6 or more but ...........
    what portion of the battle would or could you cover honestly and to our high acceptable standards of reality ?
     
  17. barrow

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    Same as the orig film matey
     
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    Heck you could do a complete movie on the "those damned engineers" of the 291st Combat Engineer Battalion, who stood their ground at Trois Ponts. If the producers of such a movie would just leave out the fluff, such as made up love stories and mythical attacks on fuel dumps in the desert. I agree that it would be hard to compact that month long battle into 2-3 hours.

    edit 291st Combat Engineer Battalion, Trois Ponts Go to page 5 of the PDF (pg 455 of the original)
     
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    the original is so pointless funny I have seen it so many times - it's garbage. slip you see my point which epic portion do you pick for a 2-3 hour special ?
    with so much going on the ground and in the air both day and night, endless.

    though it would be great if someone with intelligence would pick up on this and try
     
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    The 'lunatic asylum' scene is actually from 'A Bridge Too Far' - and didn't happen that way in reality.....

    The 'Bulge' is indeed wide-ranging - it's an offensive ( or even a campaign ) rather than a battle. Let's face it, just the story of KG Peiper alone ( which was what much of the original movie was based on ) would contain quite enough drama and characterization, not to mention Hollywood thrills.
     
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