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Effect of world war 2

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  1. davidchatman

    davidchatman Member

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    An introduction to the World War 2 would be an unnecessary procedure. The global clash lasted for almost 6 years which resulted in immense loss of life and possessions all over the world. The most disappointing matter occurred in the World War 2 was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the United States.
    Millions of people lost their life during the war. Countless number of people left homeless. However World War 2 causes an end to the dictatorship in Europe and made united state and Soviet Union as the superior power of the world. The main cause of the war due to lack of peace organization to discuss and solve the international problems. But at the end of World War 2, The United Nation has formed to promote security and peace in the world.
    effect of world war :
    World War 2 has damaged several Asian and European countries. The territorial borders of European countries were redrawn. The territorial expansion was beneficial to the Soviet Union. By this Soviet Union has got parts of Finland, Japan, Poland, Germany and some independent states to its territories. Germany was the worst affected nation by the war. After the war Germany was divided into four parts. One of each was held by United States, France, Great Britain and Soviet Union. The primary plan put forward to the Germany was too rude. But it was taken way by realizing that recovery of Europe is not possible without the recovery of German industrial base.
     
  2. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    The first thing it could be stated is, the allies dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
     
  3. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Which has not worked out very well.
     
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    Fast forward to 2011....The legacy of WW 2 may have been lost..... The brave men and women that defeated the war mongers and saved the world from tyrants will remain as the last true saviors and the last true heros...... The freedom they won has been lost to rampant crime, uneducated youth, generations of entitlement parasites, white collar crime and a general disregard for serving ones country and fellow man. My cynical remarks are in support of the ones that stormed Tarawa, Omaha, and Salerno. The ones that froze at Cassino and Stalingrad. The bombers and airmen of Doolittle. The ones that freed the Phillipines and Warsaw. I'm 55 years old and I am disgusted at the current state of affairs across this world. The same world that these brave men and women saved just 2 generations ago.
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    I'd just add politicians to your list...Of all sides. The whole worthless lot of em.
     
  6. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    I'll also add in reference to this:
    "The most disappointing matter occurred in the World War 2 was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the United States." and ask you why you feel it was the most disappointing matter?

    This saved countless tens of thousands of lives.

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  7. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    No worries urgh, We're use to it!
     
  9. 36thID

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    davidchatman.... Do you have any clue why the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki HAD to happen ?

    I would really like to hear why you think this was the most "disappointing matter" of WW 2. Please tell me your opinion about these bombings...
     
  10. Clementine

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    I know the whole issue about dropping the bombs has been discussed, so I am not adding to the discussion, but I would have to question that the MOST disappointing matter of WWII would be the dropping of the bombs?

    Just in sheer numbers Hitler and his henchmen killed and tortured far more people, millions of innocent people, for the most indefensible of reasons, and the dropping of the bombs is the most disappointing? Really?

    (And note to Steve Schaeg, as someone whose father was one of those men storming Omaha Beach, I very sadly agree.)
     
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    Thank you for your review. I tried to include events that have taken place just after the world war 2. So that is why I have dropped Hiroshima and Nagasaki matter. Thank you for your valuable commands.
     
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    The dissapointment was from the Japanese...being TOLD of the weapon...having it DEMONSTRATED and refusing to surrender...i would linch the Japanese hieracrchy if i knew this at the time...there are a few "modern" peices from Japan concerning the end of the war...let me tell you, it reflects pretty badly...not on its people but its organisations. Japan was a starving, manless heap of twisted rubble...and STILL they do not surrender...yeah pretty dissapointing.
    To me there is NO debate over this...the bomb did not save tens of thousands of people...it saved millions. From memory, the (conservative - so as to not freak too many people out) numbers of dead would have been around 300 THOUSAND marines and up to 4 MILLION Japanese dead if they had to invade the homeland...Makes the bomb look like a Japanese saviour huh??
     
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    Your comments would hold water if you mentioned the Marshall Plan.

    The Marshall Plan was the most understated effort of America in the post war world. As a merciful country we made a statement to the world. We rebuilt and assisted Germany and Japan along with dozens of other nations that were devistated by a war started by tyrants. We led by example.

    In contrast, Stalin continued to divide a wounded world. He even sent his own Russian POW's returning from this brutal war to Gulags as traders, yet we Americans saved Hirohito from the gallows !!

    One last point, could you imagine were we would be today, or if the world would of existed if Stalin invented the nuclear bomb ?
     
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    He did:in 1949;)
     
  15. tomflorida

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    Not to dwell on the Hiroshima and Nagaski, but the Japanese killed civilians in the millions. Yes unarmed civilians, women and children. Not to mention POWs. And yes the bombs did save millions. I would also argue that Germany was not the most devistated country in Europe. Poland lost almost a 16% of it's population while Germany lost about 8%. It's treasure, both economic and cultural/historical lost, even today many not returned. Plus at least 1/2 of Germany was free after the war. West Germany received much help economically from the West, while Poland was left of Stalin. Again, at least half of Germany was free, while in Poland we couldn't even speak of anythinh negative regarding Russia. We couldn't even acknowledge the work of Polish Home Army. So ya, I would say that Poland suffered the most. And one more thing, Poland didn't start the war, germany did.
     
  16. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Thats an interesting angle to look at it Tom. Not a bad angle too... I can't remember but I think the forum discussed this side of things a little while ago..As to which country SEEMED to suffer most out of ww2. taking into account casualties, military and civilian, damage, short and long term...I think the evidence provided pointed to what we now call Beloruse? Kai or Sion might remember the thread. Good link to this one if someone remembers.
     
  17. tomflorida

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    Keep in mind that some of what today is Belarus, was Poland in 1939. But I guess we lost Eastern territories to gain Western. I do believe that Polish cities which were devistated were larger with more economic value. I'm not down-sizing what happened in Belarus, as it was devistated as well. But I believe since Hitler's SS was in Poland for so long, their actions were devistating of the Polish psyche. The presence of the largest concentration camps, didn't help either.
     
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    But as an employer of 5th rate polititians and beurocrats, it has been a radiant success!
     
  19. Vanir

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    Hitler was a Nietzschean, maybe the plan was simply to have us gaze into the abyss. After all the US was greatly influenced by German military and national security thinking and protocols, as apart from the Nazi political ideology of course. But still, one must wonder where the line between a good idea and worship is drawn.
    Was the whole thing just a violent game of football?
     
  20. adrielle.martin

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    What shocks me the most is that it is still referred to as The Good War. Yes I agree, it ushered in some great changes such as emancipation of women, African Americans, the freedom of several colonies, but I really think that the events in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Hitler’s terrible crimes show us what humanity is capable of at its worst. WWII or any war for that matter should not be given that title
     

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