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German crashsite relics.

Discussion in 'Living History' started by Aru-Ed, Jun 1, 2008.

  1. Aru-Ed

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    These are findings i collected over the years and are from various crashsites of German bombers around my hometown.
    During WWII the airfield nearby was used by the Luftwaffe to do bombing-runs over England.
    Many German planes crash-landed near the airfield or where shot down by the RAF when they followed them on their way back from England.
    They where an easy prey!
    Sometimes they where shotdown by their own Flak by mistake.
    From one crashsite i know it involved an Do 217.

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  2. Aru-Ed

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    And these are the most interesting finds because they contain markings and numbers:

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    Excellent . With the Werknumbers you can identify the aircraft (DORNIER 217 Werk 218) . The stencilled Fuselage is an inner part and confirms the DO217. There is also part of an electrical device with 40 volt and 10 Amperes. The buckles and the button are most interesting (personnal belongings) Is there a sugar spoon too?
     
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    Thanks for your response Skipper!
    Ideed there is a sugar spoon, i found it near the crashsite, i can tell its from the same timeperiod but i'm not sure if it was onboard of the plane when it crashed.
    All the crewmembers died in the crash, i heard that from someone who still lives at that spot!
    All the findings are from 4 different crashsites.
     
  6. spideyman

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    Nice stuff Ed

    I wonder where al this must fit in your new home :D
     
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    ar once again very nice pics thankyou for showing us your good time
    keep up the nice work well done
    cheers krieg
     
  8. 272VGD.

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    Edwin, very interessting relics.
    I see an object with "Franz Lange Berlin" stamped on it, is this also from the Do.217?
    Because I have found 3 of the same objects on an unknown German crashsite.
     
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    Nice stuff Ed!! Keep the pics coming!!
     
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    Hey Nick,

    the object is indeed from the Do 217 crashsite, it used to cover a button or small handle like a safetycap.
    Its from the interior but i do not know if this is a common object and used in different types of airplanes or if it is specificly for the Do 217.
     
  11. Skipper

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    Also the tiny circles with a number on the aluminium parts are probably from another crashsite and most likely Messerschmitt. I have many similar parts and these little factory numbers are on the pieces to get them easier assembled. if you have Me plans you could even find out what actual piece they were. The "Bal" sign I have seen before it's a aircraft manufacturer that made spares for other main brands. I forgot the name though.
     
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    the full werke nummer on the Do 217J would be 1228. I cannot seem to find a loss date nor crew for this particular fighter
     
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    Thanks for the info so far!
     
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    I heard that the Germans used useble parts from crashlanded planes to fix still flying planes, so sometimes a plane contained parts from other planes and still had the same number.
    This to cover up the loss of the original plane and keep the statistics low.
     
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    actually every crashed a/c will have an after action report even if it is a field mis-hap ` accident, does not matter whether the craft was torn down for re-use in which many were especially fighters
     
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    Hey Aru-Ed!
    The label with "Preschona" on its top could be from a fuel filter. Preschona was a factory in Berlin which also built parts for Wernherr von Brauns rockets (Aggregat 2). This fuel filters were normally used in the Messerschmidt ME109E.
    Here you can find a picture of it:
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    The label from the O2-Wächter from Auer und Dräger culd be from a kind of gasmask or anything like that. Auer is no longer in business but Dräger is a still well known factory which prduces many different kinds of filters for raspirator masks.

    Additionally I found out that only 130 Do 217J were built, all in Friedrichshafen. For more informations check this out:
    Dornier Do 217 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So long - keep on searching ;)
     
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    Thanks for the info DJ1974!
     
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    Good addition , this confirms what I said about the possible ME-109 piece marked "49" in a circle. :)
     
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    Correct, maybe I can find out more about the "49" in the circle.
    There is a list in www about the different factories in Germany and their factory-codes. If you don´t know this list I can also post a link here if you like.
     
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    This is the list I have so far.

    AI = Albatros
    AR =Arado
    AS = Argus Motoren
    BA = Bachem
    BF= Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (after 1938 Messerschmitt AG)
    Bü =Bückler
    BV= Blohm & Voss
    DFS =Deutsche Forschunganstalt für Segelflug (for gliders)
    DO = Dornier
    FA = Focke Agelis
    FG =Flugtechnische Fertigungsgemeinschaft Prag
    FH =Flugzeugwerk Halle
    FI = Fieseler
    FK = Flugzeugbau Kiel
    FL = Flettner
    FW = Focke Wulf
    GO = Gotthaer Wagonfabrik
    HA = Hamburger Flugzeugbau
    HE = Heinkel
    HM = Hirth Motoren
    HO = Reimar und Walter Horten
    HS = Henschel
    JU = Junkers
    KL = Klemm Flugzeugbau
    NR = Nagler Rolz
    SO= Heinze Sombold
    SK = Skoda Kauba
    WE = Weser Flugzeug Bau
    ZME = Zeppelin-Messerschmitt
    ZSO = Zeppelin-SNCASO

    Hope this helps.
     

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