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German Ground Control...

Discussion in 'Air Warfare' started by Ricky, Jul 11, 2005.

  1. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

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    Ok, here is a fun idea.

    If you were in overall charge of the German Western Front air defense network, defending your country from Allied bombers, what would you have done?

    I have some theories, but I'll wait & see yours first! ;)
     
  2. Ebar

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    First things first get pally with Hitler since that seemed to be the only way of getting anything done.

    Scream to high heaven for intruder squadrons to be made available to linger over allied bomber bases around the time the bombers will be returning.

    Both day and night fighter ground control will be modelled on the RAF 1940 system. Thus hopefully avoiding issues of having some sectors sitting twiddling their thumbs while others are saturated.

    I will make a detailed survey of the points where allied bombing can inflict the most damage to the German war effort and deploy my AA guns accordingly.

    I will position POW camps for bomber crews next to likely targets for bombers. It probably won't achieve anything but it will be good for civilian morale.

    If possible I will aim to have one type of night fighter and one type of day fighter. I will do all in my power to avoid a profusion of nutty rock / jet powered death traps.
     
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    FNG phpbb3 New Member

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    I think it was just a numbers game and actual tactics would have made little difference in the long term.

    The german fighters decreased in skill and numbers as the war progressed. The allied bombers increased in numbers to point that 1000 bomber raids were being carried out.

    and this was before the allieds started getting long range fighter escorts.

    If your pilots lack experiance then they will not last long regardless of what plane you stick them in.

    If you throw enough bombers at a city they will get through.

    as for the tactics mentioned dispersment would have made little difference. Hindsight showed that BC had little affect on german industrial capacity. And by the time it might they were more interested in burning whole cities to the ground as a show of force rather than destroying industry.

    FNG
     
  4. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

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    How about...

    Unescorted daylight raids are easy meat. You inflict horrendous losses on them, and nobody, not even the Americans, can keep that kind of loss rate for too long. So, when escorts arrive, they must be countered.

    1) Night-bombing of USAAF long-range fighter bases. Although the material losses caused would be low, it would disrupt the pilot's sleep. You could even drop plenty of delayed-action bombs, which means that airfields may need to be 'cleared' by bomb-disposal teams before use. Night bombers should be 'escorted' by nightfighters - with possible interdiction of RAF nightfighter bases.

    2) Groups of fighters intercept the P-51s as they reach France, This forces them to jettison their drop-tanks early, which means that they cannot reach the bomber's target. This in turn means that either the bombers have a much-reduced effective radius, or that they go unescorted for a fair part of their journey. Then your heavy-cannon / rocket armed interceptors rip them up.

    3) Night bombers. Well, basically carry on as normal, but have more of them out interdicting RAF air bases, both bomber & nightfighter.

    Obvious problems:

    With 2) the USAAF will catch on to this - they could even end up escorting the P-51s with Spitfires. I'm sure that measures & counter-meansures would escalate... I also expect that the fighter units on this task will take relatively high losses, so I suggest that the best pilots & planes be here, and that the pilots are rotated through other squadrons periodically to share hints & tips.

    With 1) & 2) the nightfighter force would be stretched a bit thin, and all German night-flying planes will have a higher loss-rate - but so will the RAF.
     
  5. AL AMIN

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    :cool: nice RICKY EXELENT STRATEGY :cool:
    where were you in these days you would cause alot of headache to the 8, us army air force
    But fact is germany had many generals with brillant ideas but the problem was to convince hitler
    could you manage this
    it was harder to win hitler for your ideas then to win the upcoming battle ;)
     
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    Stonewall phpbb3 New Member

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    invent a proximity fuse 1/2 as good as the allied one

    train more pilots, so you did not have hundreds of A/C sitting without crews

    produce more av gasoline....instead of stupid wunder-weapons that did not work

    shoot Hitler & Goering- they were drug addicted idiots

    (ask Galland)
     
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    the reef of no fuel

    any plan to increase usage of airpower by germany must run aground on the reef of no fuel. there was not enought fuel for troop movements, supply, training, operations, or anything else. why else do you think the german army was something like 90% horse drawn transport. to move troops and supplies the choices were walk or ride the train. at no point did germany enjoy a surplus of fuel or even enough. she was also short of many of the materials needed to build bombers. one reason germany never developed a large fleet of heavy bombers was she chose to go for numbers[ fighters] because more could be built with what she had to work with. fuel was also the one reason development of the high horsepower engines needed for bombers was not persued more.
     
  8. The Englishman

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    I would just pick up all de fighters and fight them all!! Get them away!! ( i'm confussed) could someone help me pls>????)
     

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