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Goebbels the Casanova

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  1. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    Was trying to think of something spectacularly pithy to describe this, but....nothing...
    "The biography by highly respected historian Professor Peter Longerich, which draws on the propaganda chief’s extensive private diaries, shows how Goebbels and Magda became part of an extraordinary menage a trois with their beloved Fuhrer, albeit one in which there was probably no consummation on Hitler’s part.
    The book makes clear that Goebbels’ slavish devotion to his Nazi leader was one-sided. Though Hitler was passionate about Magda, he was never overly enthusiastic about her husband.
    And it shows how it was this bizarre triangular relationship that would ultimately lead Goebbels and Magda to follow Hitler to their sordid doom in the heart of Berlin
    Born in 1897 into a respectable but poor Catholic family in the Rhineland, Goebbels would forever walk with a limp because of a club foot. But he would make up for this disability with ambition, intellect and charm. He also had a voracious sexual appetite, which would be revealed in his early memoirs.
    Like many womanisers, Goebbels began honing his seductive technique when he was young. At around the age of 13, he found himself strongly attracted towards older women.
    ‘Eros awakes,’ Goebbels recorded after encountering his friend’s stepmother. ‘[I was] well-informed in a crude way even as a boy.’
    By the time he left school in his late teens, he had acquired a girlfriend called Lene Krage. ‘Shut in the Kaiserpark at night,’ Goebbels wrote of an evening spent with her. ‘I kiss her breast for the first time. For the first time, she becomes the loving woman.’
    But in a pattern that would be replicated for the rest of his 47-year life, the young Goebbels soon found that the attentions of one woman were not enough. By the time he had started his second term at Bonn University, he was carrying on with at least two other young women, which led, in the words of Professor Longerich, to ‘general erotic confusion’.
    ‘Liesel loves me,’ Goebbels wrote in his diary. ‘I love Agnes. She is playing with me.’
    He would use the lodgings of a fellow student called Hassan to enjoy the company of these women.
    ‘Agnes in Bonn,’ Goebbels confided. ‘A night with her in Hassan’s room. I kiss her breast. For the first time she is really good to me.’
    There would shortly be a repeat performance, but with Liesel.
    ‘A night with her in Hassan’s room … She is really good to me. A good deed that gives me a kind of satisfaction.’"
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083992/The-Nazi-Casanova-landmark-biography-reveals-unknown-Goebbels-grotesque-lothario-obsessed-fear-Hotler-sleeping-wife-propaganda-genius-myth.html#ixzz3aJ5fIg6q
     
  2. mac_bolan00

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    tame compared to a lot of nameless american boys. i say it was an achievement of sorts for someone short and club-footed.
     
  3. bronk7

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    have they made a movie about him yet?? with him having his kids killed, etc...wow...but there are many, many people out there just like him, and always will be...good call Mac.....but they don't describe the women, do they??
     
  4. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Power draws women. I have noticed that even in Finland. Ugly guys as top politicians with young Sophia Lorens.... I just don´t get it...
     
  5. Triton

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    Goebbels was in the position to start or end a career in the german entertaining industry, that is why he had affairs with young actresses. I don't think they were attracted.
    Nothing unusual and comparable to the situation in Hollywood...

    But: It was possible to turn him down, maybe some careers took a nosedive afterwards, but nobody was sent in prison or concentration camp for it.
     
  6. mac_bolan00

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    just the sex part, of course. i'll bet as a young man he was a lot like radar in MASH, or Cookie in Stalag 17: a beta male who had to resort to his wits to get the girls.
     
  7. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Not strictly about him, but there is a pretty convincing portrayal of Goebbels and Magda, and the killing of their children, in the movie Downfall.
     
  8. bronk7

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    thanks Martin, I'll have to get that.....Mac, those are great analogies...maybe he used his bad foot as a intro piece, and sad story.....good idea for someone with 2 good legs.....

    this from PBS--
    ''' Once described as having, "a high intellectual varnish covering the emotional world of an adolescent," Goebbels was a small man with a crippled foot, a disproportionately large head and a fragile body. He was much disliked because of his malice and ill will, and though a mesmerizing orator, he lacked charisma. Nevertheless, he was a man of tremendous enthusiasm with an endless supply of ideas, and as a master of mass psychology, he became indispensable to Adolf Hitler.'''

    at 5 foot 5'', club foot, that face, etc, I can see him following hitler, himmler etc....I don't see him getting any hot women because of his stature, etc.....
     

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