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Discussion in 'Medals, Insignia, Badges & Recalls' started by steevonson, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. steevonson

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    Hey all, new to the forum so I will apologize in advance for posting this in the wrong area or refering to anything incorrectly.

    I am a picture framer and yesterday I started working on a project for a customer who brought in his fathers medals and ribbons to get reframed. I already researched the identity and proper order of each medal but i was having difficulty on the placements.

    Total, he brought in 5 ribbons and medals, 2 3rd Division pins, a 3rd Division patch, a Sharpshooter Qualification Badge and an Expert Infantryman Badge

    I had concern on two issues:

    1. Where is the Qualification Badge worn? on the uniform? on the pocket? to the side? the same for the medals. I haven't seen them on any pictures and wasn't sure if they were even worn on the uniform.

    2. The first three medals are doubles: 2 Bronze Stars, 2 Purple Hearts (one with an oak leaf) and 2 Army Good Conduct Medals. Are multiples of the same medal worn? it seems like if it was awarded twice then they would all have extra oak leafs on them. what do you think?

    Any and all help would be appreciated

    thanks for your time,
    matt
     
  2. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

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    As for the medals only one would be worn with the Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster worn in place of the second medal. So I don't know why there would be two of each. Ful size medals and the smaller types are worn on the Dress Blues.The EIB would be worn above the medals/ribbons and the Sharpshooter badge would be worn on the pocket centered on the button on the flap. Regulations haven't changed that much from WWII.
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    http://www.army.mil/asu/

    http://www.338tharmyband.com/docs/uniform.pdf

    http://www.militarywives.com/medals/usaribbons.html
     
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  3. steevonson

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    Woah, JCFalkenbergIII that's a huge help! Thanks. Google Images couldn't come close to anything like that.

    So you would never wear ribbons AND medals on a uniform it's one or the other?

    When you receive multiple medals of the same kind do they present you with another medal plus an oak leaf or just the medal? I'm just trying to work out why he has two of several of them. You wouldn't wear both medals. maybe he's just missing two oak leaves?

    speculation.

    matt
     
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    Howdy Steevonson and welcome to the forum. Maybe this may be of help.

    US ARMED FORCES AWARDS

    Medals are not worn with ribbons ever. Medals are usually worn on their formal uniform, not class A. If a recipient is awarded a medal for the second time, he is awarded the medal. It is up to the recipient to purchase the oak leaf cluster and add it to his ribbon.
     
  6. formerjughead

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    You would think that if you were having your picture taken, as an example of "How to Wear a Uniform", that you might have someone check you for IPs, Press your trousers, and for the love of GOD know how to stand at the position of attention!! last time I checked the thumbs were to be aligned with the trouser seem and not the index finger. Are they in some sort of "relaxed" POA ?
     
  7. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Always glad to help :). There are a few posters here who are ready to help with useful information. Im still not sure about the duplicates. Maybe just as spare? And as another pointed out the medals are only worn when in Class As or Blues for formal occasions or when being first presented the awards at an awards ceremony.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    PSSSST Jughead....They're A-r-m-y.
     
  9. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Here ya go Jughead. Why dont you contact them and let them know :D :p.

    The United States Army | Contact Us


    "Photo illustration: Soldiers in these photographs are demonstrating the wear and proper placement of the Army Service Uniform and accoutrements. The photos do not represent these individual Soldiers actual awards, medals or specific accomplishments."
     
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    As I was..............Sorry I blew up
     
  11. JCFalkenbergIII

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    I hope that all of the info regarding the subject has helped Matt :).
     
  12. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

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    This photo of a WWII Class A uniform shows where the Qualification badge would go on the pocket Flap. The EIB would go over the ribbons that are over the pocket.

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  13. formerjughead

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    Except that the ribbons should be centered over the pocket and 1/8" above the flap. The "US" and "Branch" insignias shouild be centered on the lapel 1/4" from the edge.
     
  14. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Matt. Here is a good photo of a soldier who is wearing the medals along with his ribbons after being awarded with them. :). Some other good details too.

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  15. JCFalkenbergIII

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    LOL Heres an extreme :).

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  16. formerjughead

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    not bad for a 19 year old
     

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    But he really wanted to be a MARINE. I read a biography of him a few years ago, no not "To Hell and Back", and in it he says that he was always conscientious of not letting his family and the "folks back home down". One of the "folks back home" was a neighbor who had served in the Marines during WW1.
     

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