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Nuclear Lab at Gusen Camp?

Discussion in 'Concentration, Death Camps and Crimes Against Huma' started by GRW, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    Certainly seem to be anomalies.
    "Austrian authorities have ordered a search of secret tunnels beneath a former concentration camp complex where Nazi scientists are believed to have conducted nuclear research in a bid to build an atomic bomb.
    The probe was triggered by a TV documentary which accessed wartime archives containing blueprints and eyewitness accounts of frantic attempts to beat the Americans in the race for the weapon to win the war.
    And recently, readings were taken of the area at St Georgen showing elevated levels of uranium - indications of subterranean implosions seven decades ago.
    Readings taken at the site of the Gusen concentration camp near St Georgen, Austria show elevated levels of uranium - indications of subterranean implosions seven decades ago. There are 15 miles of tunnels under Gusen, a sub-camp of Mauthausen where tens of thousands of people were murdered
    In January 1944, some 272 inmates of Mauthausen were taken from the camp to nearby St Georgen to begin the construction of secret galleries. By November that year, 20,000 out of 40,000 slave labourers drafted in to build the tunnels had been worked to death.
    The 15 miles of tunnels lie under the nearby Gusen concentration camp site, a sub-camp of the notorious Mauthausen where tens of thousands of people were murdered.
    At one time, 40,000 slave labourers toiled in the tunnels making war weapons, including Messerschmitt aircraft.
    But now the hunt is on to find evidence of atomic research after a documentary by filmmaker Andreas Sulzer on Hitler's quest for wonder-weapons beneath the Crystal Mountain unnerved locals.
    The local authority has already spent £10,000 on preliminary searches of the tunnel system and is now seeking to assemble a team of international experts.
    One hitherto secret underground borehole found by geothermal imaging devices turned up an empty space yielding no clues as to what it might have been used for.
    If the Austrian site does render up proof of nuclear research, historians may yet have to rewrite the last chapters of WWII to show how close Hitler might have come to winning it
    Stefan Karner, a renowned historian at the University of Graz and head of a conflict research institute, is making his own researches in the area in the belief that plant and machinery related to nuclear research might be found.
    Sulzer searched archives in Germany, Moscow and America for evidence of the S.S.-led nuke building project.
    He discovered that on January 2, 1944, some 272 inmates of Mauthausen were taken from the camp to St Georgen to begin the construction of secret galleries.
    By November that year, 20,000 out of 40,000 slave labourers drafted in to build the tunnels had been worked to death.
    After the war, Austria spent some £10million in pouring concrete into most of the tunnels.
    But Sulzer and his backers believe they missed a secret section where the atomic research was conducted.
    The Soviets were stationed in St Georgen until 1955 and they took all of the files on the site back with them to Moscow."
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2529864/Austria-conduct-search-secret-Nazi-nuclear-weapon-laboratory-hidden-underneath-concentration-camp-complex.html#ixzz2oh9gsRX7
     
  2. Skipper

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    Let's wait and see, I don't buy it at this point. Hitlers scientists were cut off from the latest novelties and were behind regarding nuclear research , so "show me I'm from Missouri" first.
     
  3. George Patton

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    Not likely. As Skipper said, Heisenberg's project was extremely far behind the Allies when it came to research, and even further behind when it came to practical aspects.

    That being said, I'm interested in what they'll find. Just because it was impossible for Hitler to get the bomb doesn't mean that they didn't try to carry on research underground late in the war.
     
  4. Takao

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    The Soviets occupied the area until 1955, and took all the documents with them. Anyone else think that that is not all they took with them prior to leaving. My guess is that if anything of value was there, the Soviets cleaned the place out during their occupation.
     
  5. steverodgers801

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    Even if they figured out the practical aspects, there is still all the figuring out how to properly build the bomb, which was just as hard as the bomb itself. Considering the Germans made critical errors in the math of what the explosion would take, I have serious doubts they made any progress. Who's to say it wasn't the Soviets doing some research after.
     
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    Well, that's a good point Steve.
     
  7. George Patton

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    After Heisenberg was presented with some calculations and rough schematics from the Manhattan Project (post-war, of course, after his capture in the Alsos Mission), he was "shocked" by the mistakes made with the German Nuclear program. I can't remember which book told this story, but it might be from Richard Rhodes "The Making of the Atomic Bomb".
     
  8. green slime

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    1) The German Nuclear programme never really received priority, as it wasn't considered a technology that was mature enough to be developed in time to affect the war. They were right. Not even the Manhattan project, which received vastly more resources, and manpower, was finished in time to affect the war in Europe.

    2) During the war, a great many promising German physicists were called up to serve in the German army: Working on an atomic weapon was not considered important enough to grant exemption from conscription. Some died on the Eastern front. That's always going to put a crimp in your research.

    3) Prior to the war, studying Atomic Physics at universities in Germany was not really encouraged.

    There is no secret lab where nuclear explosions were tested underground.
     
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    That the famous Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle?! :rofl:
     
  10. steverodgers801

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    But he was so certain!!! maybe he had help from Herr Murphy
     

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