If you have a debate about two or more planes, here's the place to bring it up. The debate doesn't even have to be famous, the two planes can be from different countries, they don't even have to be closely related. But no silly stuff, like Mig 29 vs Bf109 or B52 vs F16, okay? No offense, but, you know what I mean, right? I have a debate right here: An124 and C5. I heard the Condor's a bit bigger than the Galaxy (which was always against my previous opinions 'cause I thought the Galaxy was the biggest transport ever, apart from the An225, of course.) But I heard the C5 was a bit faster and could fly a bit higher than the An124. Which one's the best to mass-produce in an air force?
I got one.... F-177 vs F-22 Notes: Technically the F-117 is not a fighter (as it's name implies) but a ground attack plane. the USAF claims it can carry AAMs (AIM-9's in particular) and pilots were trained to fire them but (Wikipeadia) The F-22 is 'stealthy' to a point..provided it has no weapons/external tanks on external hardpoints. Some how this doesn't seem fair.....
Yeah, because the Nighthawk's completly stealth! The Raptor wouldn't be able to hit it because it can't see it! Then again, seeing as the Nighthawk wouldn't be able to use it's stealth advantage to much avail because it doesn't carry a single AAM. I think the USAF's claims are all bluff and intimidation. That's my say. Now, anyone got a say about my debate?
so called 'stealth' aircraft are only very difficult to detect. they often show up on radar, but the signal is so distorted they are often confused with a flock of birds.
Okay, then, but it's still kinda' unfair because the Raptor has AAMs and the Nighthawk doesn't. Now for my debate...
IIRC a debate involves numerous contributions and questions, rather than one or two unsupported statements. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate I suspect we will never know just how stealthy either the F-117 or the F-22 are. Given that the US developed the stealth technology, they may have also developed ways of defeating it -- that would make sense before the knowledge of stealth became public. For example, I believe very short wavelength radar or Lidar can detect the turbulence left by the aircraft and this can be used to track it. Blaster, if you have a particular subject you want to talk about, why not make that clear in the title rather than inviting "a debate about two or more planes". I, and probably others, are interested in the relative merits of stealthy aircraft, and that gives a lot more scope for hypothetical discussions than transport aircraft, where most information is in the public domain. However, if you do really want a response to your question, I suspect it comes down to the loads (both weight and overall dimensions) you wish to carry rather than features of the aircraft. I would also suggest you do some very basic research before you post statements like "I thought the Galaxy was the biggest transport ever". It is the biggest US Military transport but a quick Wiki shows the An-124 has greater span, height and wing area, although smaller length, range and most importantly weight and load. The An-225 is much bigger and has a slightly larger (according to Wiki) load than the C5. Tom
(Sigh). I'm simply stating my previous opinions. And of course the An-225 is bigger and can carry more, because it has six engines for cryin' out loud! And, well, I considered making a specific topic about An-124 vs C5, but I thought that would be a waste of posts. I mean, it's a debate about two only distantly related planes from different countries. It's not famous or anything. But if I had known your opinion earlier, Ossian, than I would have definetly made a specific topic. My mistake, my debate closed because of adequate info put in (thanks Ossian, if it wasn't answered then I might have not settled it for a while). Anyone who has any more debates, go ahead, but I'm done until further notice.
