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Discussion in 'The Tanks of World War 2' started by Ricky, Aug 10, 2005.

  1. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

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    Inspired by a chat with Oli.

    I know that many Western Allied tanks were fitted with rockets - from the huge multi-tube launchers positioned over the turret of some American Shermans to the addition of a couple of aircraft rockets to some British-owned tanks (Shermans again!).

    However, what about the Russians?

    Apparently, tests were undertaken in fitting rockets to T-34s & KV1s - on the hull not the turret.

    Does anybody have any further info, or (hopefully) pictures of this?
     
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    Sorry Ricky, explained badly, the KV had RS-82 (I think) on the track covers, but RBT-5 had turret-mounted weapons:
    Described as tank-torpedoes (that's the Russian for it as well, so it's not an iffy translation on the kit manufacturer's part) I can't find much more about them. Also apparently there were BTs with 132 mm rockets (presumably RS-132 aircraft rockets) on the turret.
    http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/rus ... dabt-2.htm
     
  3. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

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    :eek:
     
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    This looks like the produce of one of two schools of engineering thought

    1) The it seemed like a good idea at the time line of reasoning
    2) Maybe the enemy will laugh themselves to death school of thought.
     
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    Ricky Well-Known Member

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    The launcher reminds me a bit of the TOW arrangement on the Bradley.
     
  6. Oli

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    On the other hand it did go into service and the kit describes the weapon as having a 1700 metre range. Imagine having 2 x 250kg aircraft bombs available whenever you need air support, and not having to call up the airforce...
     
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    The rokets were actually fitted on a sherman and used at the end of the war
     
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    Well if I had the misfortune to be serving in something like this then I wouldn't get any closer to the enemy then 1700 m. I would be a case of:
    "If anyone wants me I'll be over there, Waaaaay over there." :-?
     
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    A man after my own heart :lol:
    But if you have to go fight somebody then bunging a couple of 500-lb bombs at them before you get closer sounds like a good idea. And don't forget, it's a thirties design so the armour wasn't that bad and the 45mm gun was very good. Plus the thing was fast.
     
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    But surely the addition of an extra 1,000lbs would inhibit speed and manouevrability somewhat?
     
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    A wonderful encouragement to fire them quickly.
    :D
     
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    I think it lost about 5-8 mph, maybe reduced cross-country ability as well. And very probably didn't do much for traverse rates or going up slopes in any direction other than straight up - if it went along a slope the heightened CofG would have made it a bit iffy? :eek:
     
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    rockets

    Can you count 'Jet engines' as rockets?
    If so you should have seen some of the things we had at SADE
    (Specialised Armour Development Establishment)
    !!!!!!!!
     
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    That was sherman Caliope.

    Soviets had a bit different system. They were first large scale users of Rocket artilery. Their katyusha system was usualy mounted on trucks ( ZIS-5, ZIS-6, GAZ-AA/AAA etc.) They were organized the same way as normal artilery in batteries. As range of RS-82 was not that great and they were in range of german artilery some light tanks ( ussualy T-60) were modiffied to BM-8-24. Turret was removed and Katyusha system (RO-82) mounted. Picture:
    http://www.battlefield.ru/t60_2.html

    Later with apearance of RS-132 and other rockets range also improved so trucks were used as a rule.

    Ineteresting inteview with someone who fired Katyushas:
    http://www.iremember.ru/artillerymen/chumanov/chumanov.htm
    BTW Guards mortars are Kayushas.

    Americans and British started to develop rocket artilery only late in the war ( after they met Nebelwerfers i the Western desert and Italy). So they didnt use it on large scale.

    WHOA. Jet powered Valentine and Sherman. Good pics.
     
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    Weren't there landing craft that had their cargo bays fitted with rocket launchers to support the D-Day landings. I'm sure I've seen pictures somewhere.
     
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    LCR

    CORRECT. LCR
    LANDING CRAFT ROCKET.
     
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    LCTR

    SORRY, LCT(R)
    I know what sticklers you young lions are for accuracy!!
     
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    Yes but that was in 1944. and they are not to useful when you are few klicks from the beach ;) .
     
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    Well, the 13/18th. Hussars were glad of them on D DAY.
     
  20. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

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    There was the British 'Land Mattress' - deployed in 1944 after a long R&D time

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    And we also had several types of rocket launcher for AA use.

    P.S - lovely pics Merlin!
     

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