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The Greatest Generation?

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  1. LRusso216

    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    I just finished reading Command of Honor by H. Paul Jeffers, which is a biography of Lucian Truscott. It's a very interesting story of a general who, all too often, is ignored or forgotten. In any event, I came across an interesting paragraph that described Truscott's feelings about the quality of the recruits coming into the army in 1941.

    Sound familiar? And yet, the very men he was describing would go on to become the Greatest Generatiion. Something to ponder.
     
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    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    I have been meaning to read more about that fellow, this might provoke me to see if my local library has the item. BTW, that "books on the 'puter" is a great thing Lou. I've downloaded and read only one so far, but it was great.

    A detailed narrative of the last days of WW1 and the beginning of the "Roaring Twenties" period by Joseph Persico; Eleventh Month, Eleventh day, Eleventh Hour...
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Its what i think too and have said before on here, whenever i see the front line uk boys and girls in helmand.. Then i know the griping critics of todays youth are talking rot.
     
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    My grandfather said the same about my generation and even more so about my boys..
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    I may give the computer thing a try. That book sounds fascinating. An interesting period of time.

    BTW, the Truscott book is the first I've come across that actually mentions my father's regiment (the 473rd). It was formed in January 1945 from Coast Artillery Battalions and attached, along with the 442nd, to the 92nd Division. I've never seen another book on the Italian Campaign or the 5th Army that specifically mentioned it. Exciting to see.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    'Twas ever thus, Sandy.
     
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    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    Ain't it da truth;

    "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they alone knew everything and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for girls, they are forward, immodest and unwomanly in speech, behavior and dress." (Republic, Book 4; Plato)
     
  8. ozjohn39

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    Could the American people, military and civilian, young and old, Republican and Democrat, fight WW2 today?

    Could they accept 300,000 dead on the 6PM news?

    What is the difference between Pearl Harbor and 911?

    John.
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    An enemy with a known landmass
     
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    I am ******* sick of everyone old saying how my generation sucks. Who's generation was it that bombed a church and that killed black girls? Who's generation threw **** and spit at the troops when they came home? Who killed black soldiers for wearing a uniform?

    The "greatest generation" had just as many problems as the baby boomers. My generation, 1985+ is always being blamed, yet who's parenting us? The baby boomers. That comment about girls dressing immodest or something, sure that's partly true, but that's just what you see in the media and on tv. Go to a real school and those girls are only respected by the druggies and guys that want to get laid. Have you read how people got married during wwii? "18 year old guy walks in grocery store, bar, post office, etc. and he glances at a girl for once second and marries her the next day." Wow, way to ask a girl out when you've never even seen her before. You don't see kids these days going out because they glanced at each other. EVERY book I've read during wwii that talks about marraige always started with a glance at a random place.

    Today we're saving the earth(somewhat), promoting peace, diversity, etc. etc. You guys saying how terrible we are, are probably baby boomers or born in the 60s/70s. What do we think of when your generation is mentioned? Hippies, drugs, woodstock, drugs, hating soldiers coming back from vietnam, drugs, killing black girls at church, sex and drugs, crying about jfk like he's god, long druggy hair, rebellion, driving muscle cars, drinking at an early age, more hating of blacks, women, indians, etc., wow you guys should definatly critizize us when you don't even go to school anymore.

    We have kids going to New Zealand for a mock UN peace talk this summer. All the kids play sports, even the fat ones. The slutty girls are hated by the majority of the girls. The druggies hang out in a tiny corner in the school. Most of the kids respect their parents, they'd die without their moms. We all help each other out like a team, there's not a huge cloud of selfishness floating around. Sure there's been school shootings, but every generation has their crazy kids. (You guys got that Marine shooter at the university, ed gein). When 9/11 happened do you have any idea how many of my older friends enlisted the day after to fight? Atleast 20 haven't returned home. It definatly isn't patriotic like it use to be, but who're the ones who burned the flags at protests, who're the ones who put a Viet Cong flag on the Civil Statue? Sure, there was the silent majority that didn't do that stuff, but what do you think people will remember you as. And yes we play video games and watch tv, but it's the parents responsibility to control that at an early age. If you guys had video games since you were little you'd be playing them today too.

    I'm sorry LRusso216 that this is a rant and that it's off subject about the general but I've seen too many posts on this site bashing on my generation, and it's been pissing me off.
     
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    Wrong question. Is a global war on the scale of WW II likely
    in the nuclear age? No, it is not.


    Dave
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Camaro show me one post bashing your generation in this thread.. Your reading them wrong.
     
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    Most of us would try to find peace or an alternate solution instead of send boys to the meat grinder.
     
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    Oh sorry he was quoting from Plato... ya I guess I sound pretty stupid and immature then. But I have seen a lot of bashing on my generation in other threads.
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    We need to be honest here. America's greatest generation
    did not live during 1939-1945.

    Our greatest generation was the generation that defeated
    the British Empire, secured our independence, and established a viable nation under the Constitution.


    Dave
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Naarr that was done for yourselves.. Ww2 generation did it for themselves and others.
     
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    Dave,

    "Wrong question. Is a global war on the scale of WW II likely
    in the nuclear age? No, it is not."


    In my never humble opinion, the USA and the rest of the civilised world is in a global war right now, and is being defeated.

    John.
     
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    Dave,

    If the generations of 1776 and 1941 were the greatest, what does that make the current generation?

    Could the young men and women of the 21st century not rise to the challenge? An ever shrinking number of flag draped coffins seems to get the US out of a war it seems.


    John
     
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    If there was no media coverage on the Vietnam War we probably would have been there longer. Just imagine if people during wwii saw footage every night of Marines floating towards a ships propeller blades, torn apart, in blood red water, next to hundreds of other teenage bodies. Or seeing footage of frozen GIs stuck stiff in their fox holes. They probably would have kept fighting, but I guarantee there'd be way more protests. By now no one trusts the government, just look at the Gulf of Tonkin, Watergate, Bill clinton's blow job, corporations and their monopolies. People were pissed about 9/11, and wanted revenge. Men went over to war. People went on the internet, and found grapic photos of torture, abu ghraib, our soldiers' faces and bodies completely blasted away. That's the reality.

    Yes we're killing terrorists, and "supposedly" bringing democracy. But it's been 8 years, and they're still fighting in unstable territory. We're sick of them being there, we want them back home and want the trillions of dollars funding a war to be funding the homes in the U.S. What have we gained from this war? Killing terrorists in third world countries= yes. Securing oil= yes, it's more valuable than gold. Invading countries and enfocring our will on them, places that have always pushed out their enemies= no, not worth 1 dead soldier. Atleast we support the troops. I sent them an xbox, there's bins all over the school to help them out. People want to see their soldiers going to college, not getting blown apart by an IED by some third worlder. Better than working in the coal mines though.
     

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