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Werewolve units, did they exhist?

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  1. C.Evans

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    I recently read a book by an author named Davis. It is called: Kommando. This author seems to believe that there were vast hidden armies of Werewolf units waiting to spring raids and attacks on allied units. These men/boys supposedly had redoubts in the Alpine mountains, and in other regions in Germany.

    What is your opinions?
     
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    Sorry for the mistake, the book is by Lucas, the one who write Storming Eagles.
     
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    Everything I've read tells me the werewolves were more rumors than actual fighting force. It did worry the allies for a while, but no true Werewolf attacks were ever recorded.
     
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    I dont know, apparently James Lucas thinks they were widespread and ready to reek wholesale death and destruction on the allies. He even talks about "phantom" Luftwaffe squadrons with 4-5 airfields hidden in the mountains. I think he had lost some marbles.
     
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    Pure fiction.

    The Werwolf was a idea by J. Goebbels at the end of the war. In reality, the Germans were sick of this war by this time.

    IIRC, there had been only some incidents and even some (5 to ten, I don't remeber) death sentences because of partisan activity (or that what was considered to be such kind, lets say a 15-year old Hitlerjunge kills a GI having a sexual relationship with his mother while his father is in a POW camp - this was "partisane activity", too)
     
  6. C.Evans

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    I agree. I just think that this was an attempt by the author, to start something similar to: Hitler seen on Brazil, Mengele seen in Peru, type of thing. I will give the author some credit though, some of the Kommando info was accurate, and the rare photos were great but.......................
     
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    In keeping with your topics about the spotting of ex-Nazi officials, I found an article in the the very reputable [​IMG] Weekly World News entitled "I was Hitler's Gay Lover". I'll scan it and post it when I get a chance.
     
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    Dear Otto, let me know when you post it. I am wondering if we will find out that his "friend" really was Barney.
     
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    LOL, probably was barney, that overfriendly dino. I'll scan it soon, the story is really very funny.
     
  10. Marcus Wendel

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    > I recently read a book by an author named
    > Davis. It is called: Kommando. This author
    > seems to believe that there were vast
    > hidden armies of Werewolf units waiting to
    > spring raids and attacks on allied units.
    > These men/boys supposedly had redoubts in
    > the Alpine mountains, and in other regions
    > in Germany.


    The Werewolfs were a planned guerilla "army" that was supposed to fight the allies in the occupied areas of Germany, but not much came of it apart from a few murders.

    Try these books for more info "Werwolf: The History of the National Socialist Guerrilla Movement 1944-1946" by Perry Biddiscombe or "Werewolf: The Story of the Nazi Resistance Movement 1944-1945" by Charles Whiting.

    /Marcus
    Third Reich Factbook
     
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    Thanks Marcus for the titles info, I will give them a read. PS, I hope the photos work out for your site, and I have that Oberleutnant zur see Feldt KC photo in, I will send you a copy as soon as I can.
     
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    > Thanks Marcus for the titles info, I will
    > give them a read.


    Sure, I'm happy to help.


    > PS, I hope the photos work out for your
    > site, and I have that Oberleutnant zur see
    > Feldt KC photo in, I will send you a copy
    > as soon as I can.


    I will let you know when I have had the time to scan them, but as I said earlier I don't think there will be any problems.
    I look forward to the KC photo, thanks.

    /Marcus
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    Thats cool Marcus-thanks.
     
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    The Alpine Corps or Gerbijagers seemed very real and like they could be threat had they been used effectively in the Alpines.

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    I believe the only infamous accomplishment of the Werwolf organization was the assassination of the mayor of Aachen for cooperating with the US occupation. I will search for more information on this. My only direct contact with anyone of this era was while visiting Brandenburg a few years ago. Here is an excerpt from a short story regarding that visit:

    Prior to visiting the village of Ringenwalde, NE of Berlin, I had been in contact with a lady who acted as the curator for the small village museum. Upon my arrival I was invited to visit with her and her husband at their home. As I entered their home I was informed that she had invited a small group of five "village elders" to help me answer questions regarding my grandfather. I was quite honored, but was not properly prepared (i.e. note taking material, recorder). In hindsight, it may have been better not to record the conversation as that tends to intimidate or cause one to hold back. After the introductions I made routine inquiries of the former nobility that my grandfather had worked for in the 1920's. Since the guests were primarily in their 60's & 70's, they had no direct recollections, and the topic turned to the final days of World War 2. I will now share, from memory, some of the topics discussed. The conversation took place entirely in German and I will present it in English as best I can.
    The estate, which my grandfather had worked for, was purchased by a relative of Hermann Goering in the 1930's. They alluded that it may have been more likely appropriated for state debts, rather than purchased. The village is in close proximity to Karinhall. When I asked about Goering, one lady replied, "Goering? We saw him all the time, it was no big deal really. You should have seen this area when Mussolini visited, now that was a big deal! I was part of the reception committee at the train station (league of German maidens).
    I focused on the closing days of the war and the same lady replied, "Towards the end, a representative from the Gauleiters office assembled everyone from the village. He quite bluntly announced, "Here are your choices! You can stay and stick it out; you can head west towards the Allies, or you can join Werwolf!" She stated that two people stepped forward for Werwolf and were never heard of again. No one wanted to openly take the fleeing option for fear that this was a trick to root out defeatists. (Those eligible for Volkssturm duty were already long gone). So the majority opted to "stick it out". The conversation then turned to the arrival of the Russians. At this point the discussion turned very somber and the recollections became quite disturbing...
     
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    Thanks for this also, I only have scant info on supposed Werewolf activities-possibly in or near Bavaria.

    A story I heard of was of a group of four hitler Youth boys aged about 15 or 16. They were ordered to a location in the mountains, and were told to build a camouflaged position somewhere in the trees on the mountainside, and were ordered to stay there on watch until notified of a change.

    These four HJ boys were each given rations for 1 month and they were supposedly armed with 1 Panzerfaust each, and two had MP-40's and two had either a Mauser Rifle or Pistols.

    Well supposedly, they were there for about a month, and supposedly there were enemy soldiers in the area (a column of trucks, or something like that)

    Supposedly, they decided to vote on what to do. Supposedly three decided to stay, and the fourth decided to quit.

    The fourth returned a few days later and found the other three dead, from bullet wounds. Supposedly, this boy simply went back to his village, and had simply just become a boy again. Supposedly he still lives in that village. He is supposedly now about 70 years old.

    Other than that, it was rumored that a few HJ boys were arrested by US MP's for terroristic activities, and some were imprisoned and two were executed. The two executed were done so because they were cought in the vacinity of where a US Officer had been killed whils driving in his jeep. Apparently what happened was the boys strung wire across the road at about head high and when the jeep reached the wire the Officer couldnt see it, and was riding with the window down and was decapitated. I dont know if this incident was reported as werewolf related or not.

    This one is a real incident and is in the Stars and Stripes newspaper archives.



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  17. BWilson

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    Hi C.Evans, not sure if you are still interested in this topic :) but the following came out in Stephen Fritz's Endkampf (an excellent read if you are interested in Germany of 1945):

    (pp. 198-199)

    The work goes on state:

    (pp. 202, 204-205)

    Cheers

    BW
     
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    wow, thanks for the info! One day I hope they will make a movie about it.
     
  20. C.Evans

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    Hi BW, thanks for this. Im always interested in new info.
     

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