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Agincourt- French too tired?

Discussion in 'Military History' started by GRW, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. von Poop

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    Incredibly expensive for good suits, not really my period, and my mojo has flagged for this stuff anyway.
    We are possibly having a half set 'black & whited' by one of the best armourers in the world though, so I may post pics if it's as good as his usual work.
     
  2. Owen

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    I would 'like' that video but I can't.
    I do like watching that sort of thing.
    Had giggles at one point though.
     
  3. lwd

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    I guess that depends a lot on what you consider a "good suit", what's "expensive", and what period you are talking about. Some SCA armor is pretty good and a top of the line set of gauntlets is under $1K. You can get a pretty decent set for under $2K and a reasonable set for under $1K. Mine ran considerably less but I made parts of it and many wouldn't consider it in the "good suit" catagory. It's also a wide mix of periods including some moder safty features.
     
  4. LandOfHistory

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    Very thorough going over. Just thought I'd add my two bits.

    In my opinion the French were not hindered by the weight of armour but the mud, constricted space and of course the arrows, which did little outright killing of men but damaged many unfortunate horses, many of whom at this time, lacked armoured protection.
    A harness of good steel was heavy but it's distribution across the body allowed it to be worn by a seasoned soldier naturally, the men IMHO would fit the times, and could handle it.

    The French MAA actually came into a hand to hand scrap that involved HV himself, but the restricted front allowed the few to overcome the many.

    Henry's act of cruelty to the prisoners is said to have been abhorred by his nobles, who refused to do it, many a random lay yet alive in the mud, so Henry told his peasant archers to go at them with their daggers. Some of the wealthiest were spared. His reasons were as said above by others, fears that a French counterattack was in the offing, his baggage train had just been attacked and He didn't have supplies to feed his men and the prisoners. There was an understanding that prisoners of noble birth were to be well treated, and even by the primitive rules of war "understood" between Christian kingdoms at the time it was a dastardly act.

    I hope people don't mind me brining this up regarding jousting? The Melee as has been pointed out was the main event at the tournament from the 11th century until about the mid to late 13th century, but I understood that the joust at the tilt, hitherto known as the "Vespers" that preceded the Melee, had most definitely overtaken the Melee by 1415.

    Hope you don't mind me butting in.

    Josh.
     
  5. GRW

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    Not at all, JOSH.
     
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