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Discussion in 'What If - Other' started by Hawkerace, May 30, 2007.

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  1. Sloniksp

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    I think its pretty safe to say, that the United States of America is pretty safe. :D
     
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  2. Slipdigit

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    At least from invasion from without. Now, from within...
     
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    Ah ha! Now there is something to think about ;)

    I was only referring to after December 24, 1814 :D
     
    Sloniksp, Jan 22, 2008
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    :eek:Yeah, I should not have even brought it up, high-jacking the thread, agitating and all.:D
     
    Slipdigit, Jan 22, 2008
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  5. Stefan

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    Just like every other nation we are assuming they have defeated?
     
    Stefan, Jan 23, 2008
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  6. acker

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    Face it; the Second Amendment alone makes an Axis invasion improbable. Americans simply have too many civilian firearms out there.

    On an unrelated note, I wish I could buy army-surplus full-auto BARs. But gun control is slightly more stringent than it was back then.
     
    acker, Jan 23, 2008
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  7. Hawkerace

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    WOW! This thread is still booming!

    How about a invasion of Canada? and If America was neutral?
     
    Hawkerace, Jan 23, 2008
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    Because if history has shown anything it's that old men and kids clutching their dads shotgun and 5 rounds can save a nation.
     
    Stefan, Jan 23, 2008
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  9. T. A. Gardner

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    I would find it hillarious that the US civilian population had better mobility and logistics than the Wehrmacht! Not to mention probably more light aircraft than the entire inventory of the Luftwaffe to boot.
     
    T. A. Gardner, Jan 23, 2008
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    Hello there T.A. I seem to remember you from somewhere LOL.:eek:
     
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    Is this where you hide when not on THC? LOL
     
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  12. Herr Oberst

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    History does show that gun control doesn't work, criminals will always have them......Ha Ha you should see what crack shots my pals 10 and 13 year olds are on the range......never mind the fact that, back in better days, especially in the forties most families had firearms and actively put food on the table with them rather than hittin the supermarket.

    I agree, this thread is going no where and not realistic in its premiss.

    Too much Rote Dawn I think for someone:rolleyes:
     
    Herr Oberst, Jan 23, 2008
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  13. skunk works

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    Amancer Rojo. Muchachos....se venga me, se venga me!:D
     
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    Stefan,
    I'm not sure, judging by this comment, that you have any idea of the numbers of military-grade small arms and other high powered semi and full automatic rifles there are in the hands of private citizens here in the US.

    I would have to borrow nothing from my father as would most anyone else I know. The thousand rounds of 7.62x39 I bought last Autumn will go very far, not counting the case of 000 Buck and the couple of boxes of slugs sitting beside them. While my example is purely anecdotal, there are many others who are far more armed than I am and these in-home arsenals are repeated hundreds of thousand times over throughout the US.

    We have a precedent that armed indvidual citizens can defeat a standing army.:D
     
    Slipdigit, Jan 24, 2008
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  16. Stefan

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    Slip, but that doesn't account for air power, armour, tactics and strategy, not to mention the fact we are assuming that the regular army (containing most of the younger male population) has already been defeated before it becomes a geurilla war. Plus whatever the state of civilian ownership of military grade firearms is now, (genuine question) what was it like in say 1945?

    I guess I just don't have much faith in the system, to each his own eh?
     
    Stefan, Jan 24, 2008
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    Valid points.

    I guess I am thinking how unlikely that a foreign nation would be able to put those types of equipment on the ground here, at least in the last 100 years.
    I wonder if, by the time agressor nations were able to defeat the US armed forces, what arms would they have left? Not conjecture for further discussion as we would have no way of determinging that, just "thinking out loud" on my part.
     
    Slipdigit, Jan 24, 2008
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  18. Stefan

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    Incidentally, does anyone have any stats on what ownership of military grade weapons by civilians in the US was like in 1945?
     
    Stefan, Jan 24, 2008
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    A civilian version of the BAR was manufactored and sold in the US until 1986.

    I can't find numbers on how many are owned by non-law enforcement civilians, then or now. (editorial-regardless of what police and sheriff departments may think and say on TV, everyone not active in the military is a civilian, including them.)

    There is no telling how many SKSs are in the US, I would venture several, several hundred thousands. I used to see them stacked high and wide for sale at gun shows. (yes, I know, I'm not answering your question.):p
     
    Slipdigit, Jan 24, 2008
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  20. Stefan

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    No, just making me jealous.

    I'll make sure I take loads of pics on my gunnery course, pounding away on a 30mm cannon
     
    Stefan, Jan 24, 2008
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