American Invasion

so that makes it okay then.

 

Germany should ally herself with Russia and China, and divide the world between themselves. Technology(Germany)+Raw material(Russia)+manpower(China)=A new era
"Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing, and dancing sooner than war"-Homer

 

Didn't say it was . You just posted some peacenik propaganda from 5 years ago that all. May I ask what that has to do with a "What If" scenario of a invasion of the US in WWII?

 

I was referring to the awesome picture of the Nazis marching across the white house lawn, it said 'American Invasion', so I posted that map thing to say; "talk about an American invasion", that's all. IronCross, that sounds like a great idea!

 

There were the various State Guards,State Military Reserves and State Defense Corps that were formed when the National Guard was Federalized in 1940. For example in California ,Georgia and Kansas.

 

I know that we Koreans appreciate the US's presence...

 

Well that in addition to this statement implies something else. But whatever. The subject is WWII not 2003.

 

it was just a comparison is all, I could care less if a bunch of liberals did it.

 

And look what happened to us!

 

NP there .

 

A comparison of what? Two different eras and two completely different subjects. You are trying to compare the German conquests with US Influence and military bases over 60 years later. Quite a few countries allow the US to be there and actually want us there. Your comment about Iraq and the pic were an attempt to make it look like the US is at least if not more aggressive then Germany.

 

The US going into Iraq "for the protection of the world/USA" is far more close to reality than claiming somehow Hitler's Germany was going into Poland or Russia for "the protection of the Third Reich/Germany." That later statement is absolutely delusional! Germany demands...note that...demands Poland give up soverign territory. Hitler abrogates a non-aggression treaty with Poland unilaterally and then tells Britain that Poland has 24 hours to comply with Germany's demands or else. Hitler's minions in the SS stage a phoney (and since well documented) incident as an excuse to declare war on Poland.
And Russia? Germany abrogates a non-aggression treaty and invades.

And, how do you compare US behavior in foreign nations where their military has been or is with Nazi German behavior? Name a nation where the US as policy committed genocide? Or, one where forced deportation and depopulation of the locals was policy?

With Iraq there are at least a baker's dozen of UN resolutions Saddam was in gross violation of. Saddam was regularly engaging US (and other UN mandate) military forces in hostile acts and military actions in their enforcement of the UN no-fly zones that were part of the peace agreement following Saddam's defeat after he unilaterally invaded Kuwait among other actions that gave reasons for military action.
How about Saddam's use of camoflauged ships (I have nice photos of a tug with barge minelayer that was engaged in this activity) to mine the Persian Gulf in violation of long standing international agreements on use of the sea?
If anything, Saddam and Iraq more closely parallel Hitler's Germany in actions than the US ever did. Maybe putting a quick end to him and his regime was a good thing rather than allowing him to continue in power through the use of diplomacy and appeasement as the European nations did with Hitler.

 

There is not even the slightest thing in common between USA and Nazi era Germany.

This debate is totaly insane.

 

Agree fully!

Also if anyone has any doubt or question about Germany's actions on the Eastern Front, all one has to do is read my signature.

 

your the frog that has been put in a pot of cold water on-top of a stove and slowly heated, until it dies. -Don't take it literally, just think about out it for a second. Hitler told Poland to disarm? Hitler said Polish soldiers were firing across the border, sound similar to the rhetoric we were told doesn't it? if you think Saddam Hussein was a threat to the USA your no different than the Germans supporting Hitler during WWII.

 

Insults don't make you look clever.

Whilst I may be against the Iraq war in principle, it seems fairly obvious that it is nothing like the annexation of Poland in 1939. Think about it:

1. Poland was a territorial conquest extending the German empire, ruled and administered by Germany. Iraq has it's own government, the US isn't claiming any kind of ownership of Iraq.

2. Hitler faked Polish attacks on German troops, the Iraqi attacks on UN forces were real enough.

3. Saddam Hussain was in breach of international law, Poland had done nothing wrong.

Amongst other reasons. That being so, I can't help wondering what you are trying to claim, are you saying the US is a nazi-esque state?

 

Hitler didn/t tell "Poland to disarm." He told Poland to give up the Danzig corridor and portions of their country that he felt were really part of Germany and Prussia. When Poland refused, Hitler demanded they do it. He then presented Britain with an ulitmatum that Poland present a "plentipotentary with full powers to negotiate a settlement" in Berlin within a day or Poland would face invasion. Going through Britain with this was intended to make the impossible even moreso.
As who was firing on whom, there is ample video from numerous sources...including non-US aligned ones like al-Jezerria showing Saddam's military forces firing on aircraft enforcing the no-fly zone among other footage. Today one would have a hard time trumping up a phoney incident like the Gadansk radio station one Hitler used to declare war on Poland.
Today it is even hard to produce a "paper" incident using forgeries or phoney documents due to the internet and the electronics / information revolution. Where just as little as 20 years ago such things could be done and take weeks or months to be found out after having caused extensive political or economic damage today such incidents are uncovered in literally hours.

And, as far as it goes, I could care less the degree to which Saddam was a threat to the US. In overthrowing his regime it is irrelevant. He was a regional power destabilizing his region. He openly and widely supported terrorism, both state sponsored and extra-state groups, world wide even if he and al-Queida did not directly have a link.
He was in violation of numerous treaties put in place to keep his expansionist and militant activities in check. He was practicing genocide at home and when possible abroad. He had access to weapons and materials that posed a grave danger world wide in the hands of terrorists, whom as mentioned he supported.

Your argument of "...sound(s) similar to the rhetoric we were told doesn't it? if you think Saddam Hussein was a threat to the USA your no different than the Germans supporting Hitler during WWII." is specious also. This is akin to saying that the US had no interest or need to get involved in a war with Hitler's Germany. After all, Hitler wasn't a threat to the US. Just ignore the occasion ship being sunk (including warships ala the "USS Cole incident") or terrorist act. Those really are not relevant.

 

Godzilla is a Japanese icon too!

Anyway, the only way that Germany and Japan could take down the US, which is (as stated) protected by a vast ocean...is from within. They would have had to plant sabatuers to destroy our infastructure and defenses and wreak havoc. where there is a will, there is a way. BTW, we did that before Overlord, we used the French Resistance and others to destroy what they could, out bricks in gas tanks, steal ammo, cut com cables....... Then the Japanese would have to take both Hawaii and the Aluetians and Germany would have to arrive through either Mexico or Greenland and go through Maine. Once in they face an extremely capable army, air force and NAt'l Guard. Then there are all the really pissed Americans who would arm themselves and fight to the death.