Anyone here like classic rock music?

Quoted By Ta
early Bob Dylan

early Bob is back! Havent you heard 'Cross the Green Mountain' from the Bob Dylan soundtrack?

CvM

 

Classic Rock Forever!!

I find it interesting that no one has yet brought up, perhaps the greatest rock guitarist (although Jimi is very close ). He recorded what Rolling Stone magazine stated several years ago was the greatest rock and roll album ever. A single from that album is regularly played at least once a week on nearly all classic rock radio stations.

I am referring to Eric Clapton of course. The Album... Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs by Derek and the Dominoes....The single played is Layla....and not the acoustic MTV version for those under the age of 25.

 

I'm almost there with you, Herr Kaleun...except that, well, I think Hendrix was a greater innovator.

But just listen to Clapton on Cream's live version of 'Crossroads' which, altho' recorded in 1968, can still blow your speakers away !

( And if anyone here says 'Who were Cream?' well..your R'n'R education has been sadly neglected... )

 

Carl,

Isn't everything a matter of opinion with music.

I think that was kind of the point of this thread.

Must be a personal problem with santana. ?
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Bull, I love Cream! "Strange Brew" is one of there lesser known but good ones.

 

Yes Eric Clapton is a great !! The British album cover of Blind Faith is something that can still put a smile on my face too after all these years !

Does anyone on the forum know what the girl's name was and what became of her?

"In a White Room", is a good Cream cut also.

Yes I heard the new "old" Bob Dylan and it is an improvement over the stuff he put out the last few decades !

 

Especially for Ta152 : -

http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blindfaith/vvcov69.html

Enjoy !

 

Nr 9--sorry toi say that you didn't know me about 2 yrs ago--I sold all my stuff for 1 buck a piece--including vintage Jazz--R&R, Country etc. This included two copies of the Original Star Wars albums and one still had the original poster still mint.

The reason I sold all for so cheap is that I got sick and tired of lugging hundreds of pounds worth of vinyl whenever I moved--and besides--I never listened to any of them. Anyway--had you known me--i'd made ya a deal you couldn't refuse on these--and yes--I am fully aware that many of these are worth a bundle these days. I'da practically given them to you--for cost of shipping of course.

Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Glen Miller, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr. Mike Curb Congragation, Johnny Horton, Beatles, Beach Boys, Elvis, CCR, Billy Joel, Simon and Garfunkle, Doobie Brothers, Louis Armstrong, Nat King Cole, Count Basie, Spyro Gyra, Stan Jones, Rolling Stones and Sons of the Pioneers of and Cole Porter--those were all the best musicians.

Fav album/CD "Red Hot-n-Blue."

 

Thank you Martin !!!! Guess who is going to have nice dreams tonight.

 

My loss Carl, if I’d known you 2 years earlier I would have had the pleasure and benefit of 2 more years discourse with you. Still, we’ll just have to make up for it now . Re the vinyls, I appreciate the offer that could have been and certainly I would have bid for Johnny Horton and the Doobies.

I started collecting vinyl when I was on pocket-money. The first single I saved –up for (this at a time when 45’s were the minority sale and record shops still majored in 78’s), was Cliff Richard and the Drifter’s ‘Living Doll’ (1959). By 1962 I’d decided to invest birthday money on a whole album, Joe Brown and his Bruvvers ‘Picture of You’. Mind you, it was on the Golden Guinea label, hence 21 shillings as opposed to the usual price of albums at 30 shillings, (20 to a pound). The collection grew every year so now I have just about all I can take in. But I still browse the garage sales.

I totally agree with music being a person thing, and would add I see it as a natural part of growing up to want to find music ‘of your generation’ to establish yourself as new and different from elder siblings and parents. I also believe, with hindsight of many musicians I have played with or known, being a real talent does not equate with ‘making it’ in the music business. Conversely, there is utter dross that does. Whatever, if they make bucks then they’re successful – that’s what the ‘business’ is about.

I’d already made up my mind to refrain from any further comment about performers, or though I had. We’re all expressing opinion, fine. Worshipping at the alter of Eric Clapton is not where you find me. I for one, don’t venerate mediocre guitarists, especially plagiarist’s. IMHO I knew/played with two guitarists who made Clapton sound like their pupil, and, in the 70’s I went to the Crystal Palace ‘Bowl’ concert (South London), which had Clapton. He entertained people with ‘his’ licks to good effect. Then out stepped a big ‘ole Texas black man named Freddy King (not B.B. or Ben E.). The audience didn’t rise to their feet, they fell to their knees! Anything half interesting that Clapton played came from this man who played it ten times better – because he originated it. Then there was the stuff Clapton couldn’t play.

Eric ‘the name’, closed the show, but the damage was already done. The people had seen the light and the music was drowned by calls for ‘the King’. Freddy came back on stage and Clapton faded into the backline to take his proper place supporting a Grand Master. This turned out to be the last chance to hear Freddy in Britain (maybe anywhere?) as he died shortly after.

Spend the bucks, search the net for Freddy King (or Freddie King) early years Federal recordings 1960/61 on.



Freddie King (Freddie Christian) Gilmer, Texas- 1934 : 1976 - Chicago/Texas blues
“ Freddie King, the one and only "Texas Cannonball", fused the open-string sound of Texas blues guitar and the raw, screaming tones of West Side Chicago blues. As a guitarist, he is best known for his extremely aggressive picking attack (using a thumbpick and steel fingerpick), his phenomenal collection of signature riffs, and one of the most wicked vibratos the planet has ever seen. His guitar playing was matched in intensity only by his voice.”

Respect!

No.9

 

Thank you for the kind words Nr 9. now I only wish I had not got rid of all my records. I also had about 70 .45 records as well--all originals.

 

You’re very welcome Carl. Nowadays the world and his wife seem to be re-issuing just about any type of old recording on CD or whatever. Seems like if there’s something you missed or worn out or always wanted, you just type in a search for it and up pops several outlets with it on offer! Like all these films you keep finding on DVD.

Certainly makes me think if I really want an original vinyl or a scratchless copy in some other format?

No.9

 

I hear ya mate. Same also goes into the militaria collecting world as well. I just got disasterous news about an item I wanted badly. The darn thing sold before the dealers could update their site. Oh well--saves me $101.00.

 

Ouch! That’s a lot of bucks, but obviously militaria prices go way past that. Some folk have planes and tanks and the like .

There was a travel programme on TV recently. visiting Romania. When the presenter went to some large market, he said there was big business in militaria? They stopped at one man’s stand and he had lots of Soviet stuff, but, my money says it was all modern repro. The presenter held up a Leica camera, mint!!! I should point out the seller had half a dozen more on his stall, all ‘mint’. Again, by money says these are new Russian copies, (you want one comrade?). After all, they copy Rolex and Cartier watches. They’re very good copies, I have both, but no way are either worth $5000 – take 2 noughts off for the Rolex and 3 for the Cartier.

No.9

 

Russian 'Leicas' ?

A friend of mine doing business in Russia a few years back was well and truly 'caught'. He came back proudly bearing a 'Luftwaffe Leica'.It looked quite good but the give-away was a very prominent swastika marking - which Luftwaffe Leicas never had - and I had the unenviable task of telling him that, well, it was a fake .

I took it along to a London dealer who instantly id'd it as a Russian 'FED' camera tricked up. Value - 20 dollars, maybe.

 

Hi 9, Martin, --well--sad news--it sold before the mil site even updated their site--I missed by one evening What was special about that ribbon bar is that I now can almost positively ID it to a man who won the Spanish Cross in Silver--won the German Cross in Gold and possibly was a Knights Cross Recipient. What the awards on the ribbon bar also told me was that this man was a hotshot pilot, and most likely entered service with the then fledgling Luftwaffe--probably in 1935. Most likely--by sometime after early 1943--he was either killed in action--missing in action or a POW. All this based on his awards and his only having one Luftwaffe long service award. In thew least--if not positively idnetified--I could greatly narrow it down to just a few soldiers.

Be VERY weary on any militaria coming from former communist controlled countries and or eastern countries like Rumania, Hungary, Latvia, Czecholslovakia, etc etc--reproducing is a big industry there--as they know they'll make tons of money producing this stuff.

I once had a Leica camera--it was east german and was about worthless. I was told I could sell it for about $100--though I didn;t believe it. Just for the heck of it--I tried to sell it for $25.00 and got laughed at. I finally sold it for $10.00 and I got an Eastern Front Winter Medal as tpart of the deal. Not much but--better than nothing I guess.

 

# 9 great post on Freddy.....I remember years ago only being able to see blues man Albert King on the TV. Sad, I thought his guitar smoked, much like the late great Stevie Ray Vaugn.

~E

 

Thank you Erich and for sure Albert King is among the founding fathers of electric blues. Though B.B. is probably the best known of the ‘Kings’, Freddy and Albert, I would say, left the greater legacy.

Hendrix ‘apprenticed’ with Albert and, while people like to ‘wow’ about left handed Hendrix playing a right-handed guitar upside down, this is exactly what Albert did . Probably less obvious because Albert usually played a Gibson Flying ‘V’. And, for herr_kaleun, if you rate Layla, please get to listen to Albert King’s “The years go passing”

Albert used the Flying ‘V’, but the man probably best associated with a guitar shape has got to be Bo Diddley.

Not so much an outstanding guitarist picking out all the winners, but a rhythm man who produced a hallmark ‘sound’ which endured and influenced. Anyone thinking James Brown was the only performer with nifty footwork should check out film of the young Diddley . Then there was the ‘Duchess’ who sometimes appeared with him. Best seen in a long evening dress just shaking a tambourine. Like jello on springs in a Rhinestone mould

Of rhythm guitarists (real R’n’B) and enduring influence, tops is Chuck Berry.

Again, while not the last word in lead guitar, no one has had their riffs copied more. But, as to being the originator of the choppy, chunky Rock’n’Roll style……Berry first recorded for Chess in 1954. In 1949 Fats Domino recorded “The Fat Man”……….take a listen! Now we’re down to the ‘Real’ King of Rock’n’Roll, (IMHO of course).

Fats recorded a song called “Be My Guest”, which contains a lyric I think a fitting comment to all those who came after and achieved greater notoriety. ”I’m the king but you can wear my crown”.

Hail to the King!!!

No.9

 

Bo Diddley, My favorite thing 'Bo Diddley' is the animals song entitled with his name.

 

The Animals, another great band. Picked up the R’n’B ball and ran another 10 yards with it. Quite a bit of Hooker in their work.


While on British greats, can we have an ovation for Peter Green’s original Fleetwood Mac please

No.9

 

Freddy King, Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry- all great musicians! You forgot Huey Piano Smith.

Best regards/ Daniel