Bush

Mr Pitts, through all the pages of posts in this topic, I belive that this is one of the best ideas. IMHO, doing this would make the entire country change overnight, and would change for the better.

 

If this is not already the case in the US, then what are you waiting for? Revolt!

 

Our founding fathers were the rich and elite, i don't think you could deny public office to a person for being rich. Wealth does not make a bad person; greed does.

 

Yes, I do. The Great Depression was caused by hording money, the gold standard, the federal reserve board, Malinvestment, Sticky Prices and yes the Smoot-Hawley Tariff.

he tarrif by itself didn't cause it

 

The whole point of the income tax was to make up for revenue lost by dropping tariffs. Right now, American producers face many competitiors from overseas. I see lots of ships coming into ports loaded with containers, but only empty ones leaving. I think tariffs would be a good idea in moderation, so that American producers could catch up. This is why Bush already put tariffs on steel.

Great Depression was caused by people spending too much on credit. Credit had just been introduced mainstream, and people went wild with it. There wasn't enough gold to back it all when the panic struck, so many people lost everything.

 

Gotta agree with you on that one, Stewie.

 

Sorry Roel, I don't think a revolt would go over well with the majority of people here.
You can't blame "elitists" for all the problems facing America.

 

More than anything, the Great Depression was caused by money speculation and overextension. We were living on borrowed time anyway because the rest of the world was already in a Depression when it finally reached our shores. But it need not have been as bad as it actually was if the speculation was under control (yes Roel and MP, I'll admit too much laissez-faire hurt us). Allowing people to make investments for 10% of the total is a formula for disaster.

 

Which was precisely what we got, too. Sowing the wind does cause one to reap the whirlwind.

 

You're a poet and you know it!

My resistence was futile, I will try harder next time.

 

The other day I've read something about Bush's administration.
Specifically about Veterans Affairs.

First of all there are 26 million veterans in the us, one out of ten. That really astonished me.
6,5 million veterans are enrolled in veteran health care.

I've read that the Bush administration hold the funding up of VA for 5 months in 2003.
That the bush administration put in budget cuts;
14,6 billion dollars on mandatory programs and
10,5 billion dollars on discretionary programs

I don't know what kind of programs these are.

According to the sources (press and VA financial officers) these cuts will mean that 1.7 million veterans lose VA health care. That 9000 VA Physicians and 18000 VA Nurses will be sacked, 7 VA hospitals closed and the end of care for 164.000 VA patients.

And that is not all, active serving troops get cuts on imminent danger pay (75$) and family seperate allowance (150$) each month.

What his program on 2004 is I don't know, what I do now is that the Bush administration has announced last year that defence budget shortcomings will be payd by relocating VA budget.

I don't know if there are any us-veterans on this forum and voted for bush. This really is outrageous, veterans who served their governments are left behind as rubbish. I am glad I'm not a us-veteran, throwing away my live and talents in wars made by leaders who have never seen a war and then at the end being notified that a dickhead president who run away for draft think I should do with less money or that I don't need VA health care.

I really feel sorry for the veterans.

 

this is really suprising

if bush is in the middle of the war then wouldn,t the plan now effect those men when they leave the service. i agree this is outragoues. my grandpa is a US veteran of WWII and i not sure but i do belive he has some coverage form the healthcare. its not his fault he went to war he was against it but was drafted and lost two of his best friends there. this gets me really mad that bush would do something like that, but there a republican for you.

 

Believe it or not, 101, there are some good Republican politicians (or at least as good as *any* politician can be...), just as there are, no doubt, some good Democrats. Blanket statements are not only always inaccurate, they tend to be downright insulting, too. I intend to vote for Mr. Bush in November. I disagree with some things he's done, and he has definitely made some mistakes (name someone who hasn't, before you jump all over that last statement), but I believe that he is a good man. And besides, I don't see a good alternative coming from the Democratic Party.

 

As a veteran, but not a war veteran, I've always felt that the VA Hospital System needed a big reform. Why someone like me, who was never in combat much less wounded in combat, is eligible to receive treatment at a VA Hospital after a certain age is beyond me. It should be reserved for people wounded in combat or hurt while on active duty. In the U.S. the VA Hospital system has become a bloated beaurocracy and needs cutting.

 

so what about all those people that have lost thier family becuase of traumas they had to face in the war

your saying that the only thing they may be giving they health should be desroyed or kept for those that only have benn injured

 

This is exactly what makes me feel that a two-party system isn't a real democracy. We discussed this in a different topic; there are way too few alternatives when voting. Wouldn't you much rahter have a party for every general direction that political opinions can take? I don't mean too many parties of course, but at least everything from left to right should have its representative.

There is a joke that has been circling the Netherlands for about a week now. It goes like this:

A man dies, and he goes to heaven. At the gates of Heaven, he meets the saint who guards the entrance, who is standing in front of a big wall with millions of clocks. Curious, the man asks the saint what these clocks are. The saint says: "every human being has such a clock representing him in heaven; whenever a man lies the arms of the clock move so we can always see when a man is lying." The man then points at a rusty clock and asks the saint, "whose clock is this?" The saint replied, "That one belonged to mother Theresa. She never lied." The man then points at a different clock, slightly rusty, and asks the same question. "That one belonged to Lincoln. He only lied twice in his life, so his clock moved only twice." The man is about to continue his journey into Heaven, but has one last question: "just out of curiousity, where's George Bush's clock?"

The saint answers: "Oh, that one's been hanging in Jesus's quarters for a while now. We use it for ventilation." :lol:

 

The above story works much better for Bill Clinton. Even his fans, of which there are still many, know he's a nonpareil liar (even discounting his Lewinski scandel).

 

that joke can work on many levels not that i am surrporting bush in anyway

 

I hadn't heard it before, but maybe they just adapted it for Bush. In any case, it's a funny joke isn't it?

 

it is funny but it is also used on a lot of people