Donald John Trump

??? Not asking you to fly to the moon but at least be in the ballpark. If you claim to prove something then do so. If you are not going to then don't make the claim.

The point was your statement was way off the mark (as usual). If you say that an argument of yours proves something then it should do so. Yours didn't. That doesn't mean that your conclusion was wrong but it does mean that it wasn't proven. That is far to common a practice of yours.

By the way your English is deteriorating with grammatical errors in just about every post now. You have done much better in the past in that regards.

It's not at all clear to me how denigrating a British politician is related to the topic of Trump either unless it's another case of you offering distractions when your base arguments are clearly invalidated.

 

Please lets not expect perfect grammar from everyone, especially for those who speak English as a second language and for those poor unfortunates saddled with the Queen's English

 

I don't. However wm has shown in the past he is quite capable of writing decent English. The fact that his English has deteriorated in recent posts looks to me to be a sign that he isn't really trying he's just firing from the hip indeed it's a part and parcel of his lack of logic and reason as far as I can see. It's also getting to the point where it's not always clear what he's trying to say, especially given his tendency to make rather off the wall statements. Find one of the threads where he's not as emotional and you'll see what I mean.

 

No worries, every cloud has a silver lining, mental deterioration is not that bad, idiots are mostly happy

 

Bernie Sanders




Hey Americans, do you want to hear a story about your favorite politician Bernie Sanders? It's a good one.

Sanders family as most Jews hails from Poland. They sold booze in some village that nobody ever heard of, in a region synonymous with a shitty place. The locals drank like fish so his family was relatively rich. But it wasn't enough, too many children, so Bernie's father left for the greener pastures of the US.

90+ years later Bernie returned to his village to a king's welcome. They showed him their POIs, monuments, cemeteries, the place his house was (a flood washed out it to the sea).
But Bernie was really more interested in something total different - the (shitty) Polish "Obamacare". So they showed him everything, how it's done, its inner workings. Unfortunately in a VIP-induced daze, and driven by pride they painted everything in a very good light. Well, maybe it's not that bad over there, it depends partially on local council's abilities and resourcefulness - but still they overdid it a lot.
Bernie asked a lot of questions and left - totally convinced that government-imposed universal health care was better than sex.
So now you know who is to blame for your country's healthcare misery.

his family's house before the war:


His grandmother in 1929 Polish Business Directory, they say she was a beast - a prime example of an alpha female:

 

Doesn't seem like it has anything to do with Trump, just an overzealous immigration officer.
I've had a similar thing happen to me.

Thanks for the links, interesting stuff.
But I wonder why the UK tries to prosecute a UKIP MEP for 3,000 quid expences, but declines to prosecute most of the Lords who fiddled their expences?

The Queen's English?
I thought she was German....

 

Much the same can be said of the plethora of Trump's promises...

You must still be drinking from said booze...The US healthcare misery began well before Bernie Sanders was born. In fact, it began shortly after his father was born.

 

If you are asking about Nikki Sinclaire she was prosecuted because she fell out of favour with Farage and UKIP framed her in order to silence and remove her. It was UKIP who drove the prosecution and once a complaint is made the Police have to take action . The trial was a farce when it was admitted in court that the person who filled out all the expenses claims was a spy planted in her office by Farage and that this spy had hacked Nikki Sinclaire's computer and sent all the information to Farage.


http://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2016/07/01/nikki-sinclaire-fraud-trial-spy-aide-passed-on-info-to-nigel-farage-court-hears/?src=ilaw

Text messages were shown that proved they were going to frame her after they failed to get her thrown out of UKIP

However, in a text conversation about Sinclaire with a local party colleague in February 2010, he accepted replying: "Ok, Plan B - fraud."
At one stage during proceedings Mr Ison used his right not to incriminate himself, by declining to answer whether he had breached the Computer Misuse Act, after being presented with evidence he hacked Sinclaire's personal laptop.
Sinclaire's barrister asked Mr Ison if he had installed spyware on an office computer, before bragging to a party colleague about the information he had gathered as a result.
In a message in January 2010 to Steve Morson, described in court as then chairman of the Ukip regional office, Mr Ison wrote "I have just captured the entire data from Nikki's laptop", ending the message with a smiley face.
A reply allegedly sent by Mr Morson read "lmao", which the court heard was shorthand for "laughing my a**e off".
Asked by Mr Hammond if he sent the laptop message, Mr Ison replied: "Yes."

Sinclaire was found not guilty and the trial proved UKIP were totally corrupt and would stoop to any level to silence opposition.
You must learn to check anything UKIP say. They tell a lot of lies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_parliamentary_expenses_scandal

You will find 6 Lords in there (2 jailed) and a lot of others.

A more pertinent question is why is Nigel Farage so desperate to get a seat in The Lords?

 

They are politicians, ergo when they speak they are lying.

 

I suppose it's too late to take advantage of the cash for peerages project...

 

We have Medicare in Australia...I can go to the doctor and get most of my money back instantly, or spend a week in hospital...and it wont cost me a cent. America deserves the same.

And as for over zealous immigration officers...Mem Fox, a celebrated (elderly) author here in Australia recently visited the US for a literary thing...and was detained at the airport...she says the officers there had "turbo charged powers" since she was last in the US (shes visited over a hundred times) - She put in a complaint to the Australian embassy in Washington and the US embassy in Canberra...and received an apology.
She said: “I have never in my life been spoken to with such insolence, treated with such disdain, with so many insults and with so much gratuitous impoliteness,”

 

I'm watching you, Bub. :sunglasses-peek:

 

Wait! we are paying for your Medicare too? Forget the Wall, lets get Australia!

 

Indeed, I did read the article, rather curious as to why the prosecution would go to trial with it in the first place.

In fact most of the Lords and cabinet ministers, having been found to have fiddled figures were allowed to repay money and resign, and yet the UKIP MEPs were prosecuted.

Frankly, baron Paul, Clark, Taylor, Bhatia and the rest of the cheating MPs and Lords should have resigned, or been summarily booted.
Those that cheated or fiddled figures should have been prosecuted.
It's frankly disgusting that they still sit in the Lords.

 

If only the world could communicate in the Queens English. No hidden meanings, no ebonics. Get to the point and do it concisely.

 

One is not amused...

 

Geeze, hope i don't have to apologize to anyone again today...It is awfully tiring...Line to the left.

 

Take a leaf from the Aussies...don't give a $hit Pops...

 

Belasar, I think Trump is reading this thread, you've just been appointed new Secretary of HHS.
(That's your phone ringing, White House on Line 1)

New Plan!

Repeal Obamacare, free medicare for everyone!! - and Australia will pay for it....

 

The US doesn't pay for squat in Australia...we have regular arguments over who pays for what...neither side is willing to be magnanimous, and rightly so...tax dollars should be spent wisely.
No, Australia pays for its free medical via taxes (some of the highest in the world) or more correctly, a medicare levy is paid as part of tax...I thin k about 98% of Australians like/love the system as it might be them or their family that may need it. It also allows for hard cases from the island nations to come to Australia and be "fixed" free of charge...these cases are extreme...you know some kid with a birth defect or had a horrible accident.
"if you don't have your health, you have nothing" - So true.