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  1. Roel

    Roel New Member

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    Yes, the Götterdämmerung again... "Ragnarok" is a nam often used in fantasy everywhere. It does look pretty cool Son-etc, but what does it do? What's the context of this space craft?
     
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    It looks like a single-seater...
     
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    I kinda like Spaceball 1 meself! It goes faster than any of the ships you've been talking about! Faster than light speed!
     
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    It goes atleast as fast as Ludicrous speed (don't know if it can go faster??!)!
     
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    BTW Best Spaceship fighter would be the Vf21 Sturmvogel from Macross plus/7!

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  6. Ricky

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    It looks a bit like a Transformer...
    (not the electrical kind, the Autobot/Decepticon kind!)
     
  7. Danyel Phelps

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    Re: Star Destroyers suck

    If we use published, canon evidence as to the power of the respective shields from Star wars and Star trek, we find that the heat dissipation rate of shields on Federation starships such as the Galaxy class is, give or take, 3300GW at its peak. The shields of an average Imperial troop transport generate heat dissipation in excess of 70 trillion GW at peak.

    In other words, using published specs, we find that the shields on a simple Imperial transport are up to 20 billion times more resilient than those of the Galaxy.
     
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    I did notice that the stories seemed to ignore the Imperial shields.
    They seem to play on the theory that the 2 sets of shields are geared towards different threats - they have different frequencies, or something. So Imperial shields are geared to repelling lasar fire, while Starfleet shield are geared to repelling phasar fire. the theory then runs that a shield set up to deflect one will not deflect the other. Conveniantly for the author, Starfleet happens to have both... (suspicious...)
    Personally, I would have liked to have seen how the author envisaged the effect of ion cannon on Starfleet vessels. I am interested that after the initial engagement (when it did not get the chance to engage) ion weapons were completely ignored.
     
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    Federation fans will usually assume that Imperial shields have a frequency to which they are vulnerable, much like Federation shields. Since no vulnerable frequency has ever been mentioned or referenced in any official or canon source (Heck, as far as we know, the shields don't even operate on any frequency at all,) and since the Trekies give no justification for this claim other than the fact that Federation shields have a vulnerable frequency, it can be assumed that they honestly believe that Imperial shields work on Federation technology, which is sheer hogwash.
     
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    :D

    And the ion cannon?
     
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    Star Wars ships can loose all power and hold together. If a Star Trek ship loses power to the warp core, the containment field fails and it explodes.
     
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    So, in yon story, even allowing for the whole shield disparity (which I'm not sure I will!), all the Imperial ships needed to do was blast away with ion cannon...

    I look forward to PMN1's reply :D
     
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    A single light turbolaser produces enough power to drain a Galaxy classes shields and cause mass exploding of bridge computers (not to mention the untimely death of every redshirt on board) in a single impact.
     
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    You've got to feel that's a slight catch. Pull the wrong plug out by accident when doing the hoovering and kaaboom! :D


    I don't know whether anyone has read any of David Weber's Honor SF novels. He gives a very good idea of the massive distances spaceships could fight at. His ships usually start firing a ranges of several light seconds (Speed of light 299,792 Km per second) which would outdistance Star War and Star Trek ships.

    Looses out in the looks department though.
     
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    Starwars capital ships on average engage from several Kilometers away. Startrek ships like to stay so close to one another that even when your cloaked the enemy can just shoot blindly and hit you.
     
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    Though to be honest that will have more to do with the medium that they appear in -
    Big screen (films) looks good to have large fleets fighting at a reasonable distance.
    Small screen (TV) looks better to have both ships close together, so you can actually see them both!
    Books, heck, you see with your mind here, anything is possible if you describe it properly.
     
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    Startrek pulls its stunt with the ships flying at near-collision distances on the big screen as well.
     
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    Yes, but the films are basically just longer versions of the TV episodes, and how could they explain any such differences to their Trekkie fanbase?
    ;)
     
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    I'll take up a neutral position in the Warrie vs. Trekkie debate, as I think both suck to an extent unequalled by any book SF. :D

    And an Arquillian war fleet would crush them both and they home systems in a heartbeat. :D
     
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    The Ragnarok is no single seater. It has a pilot, co-pilot seat in the cockpit. Along with four seats in there also for the engineers. It has a presidential class passenger room of twelve seats. Considering it is big enough to contain ten rooms. I think it is quite roomy.
    It also has four Uranium powered jet engines.
     

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