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Finns were against Jews too?

Discussion in 'Winter and Continuation Wars' started by higge, Sep 19, 2008.

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  1. higge

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    State police killed during the war to the communists and Jews in northern Finland, together with the Germans.

    Weeks from Saturday in the history of his doctoral dispute OULA Silvennoinen According to Salla erected a concentration camp, where Nazi German security specialist police unit Einsatzkommando Finnland killed the ideological and racial enemies of persons deemed to the assistance of the Finns.

    Silvennoinen dissertation examines the Finnish and German security police cooperation in the years 1933-1944, Hitler's power of print to the continuation of exhaustion. Silvennoinen of the executions, attempted to clarify after the war, but the studies did not lead to results.

    The study is based on Finland's secret police, the detective police, the central and state police archives. Silvennoinen has compared the evidence, including Germany, Estonia, Latvia and the United States obtained from sources.

    Valpo's wartime head Arno Anthoni convicted of a war criminal in prison in 1946, but he was released the following year the Soviet JCC had left the country. German minds of Anthon be held liable for including an eight juutalaispakolaisen extradition to concentration camps in Germany.
     
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    Still it seems conceptually quite weird that the Finnish state and the army had been against Jews. It is however important that such a study has been made but the only culprit is the secret police chief who was known to possess some anti-Semitist sentiment and who executed semi-official power in Lapland.

    All the military action in Lapland was under German control during 1941-44, it is therefore not uncommon that Finnish officials were subordinated to the Germans. I don't recall that the state police had killed but instead handed over to Germans some Russian prisoners of whom a part happened to be Jews. The ones who were caught from sabotage or spying were of course shot like in every nation in war.

    The 'historical bomb' that some schadenfreudisch Swedes have prepared still don't alter the fact that Finland was the only Axis nation whose Jews served in the army, and that the Jewish community in Finland declared after the Peace Treaty that Jews had not been oppressed during the war.
     
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    We did not have a holocaust but I know there were racial killings in Lapland after the people were given to Germans.

    However, in the Finnish side in the southern section Jews were not hunted and they served in the Finnish Army. Some even received the Iron Cross 2nd class which they naturally threw away.

    Fascinating History of Finnish Jews During WW2

    "Consider the paradoxes. Finland fought on the German side (although it always refused to call itself an ally and insisted that it was only a co-belligerent). Yet it refused to deport, persecute or even discriminate against its Jewish population. And the country even behaved humanely towards Jewish prisoners of war."

    Captain Solomon Klass saved a German company that had been surrounded by Soviet forces. Two days later, German officers came to offer him the Iron Cross. He refused to stand up and told them contemptuously that he was Jewish and did not want their medal. The officers repeated their ‘Heil Hitler’ salute and left.

    In 2005 an exhibition dedicated to Marshal Mannerheim was held at the Hermitage museum in St Petersburg, and Finnish historians had an opportunity to show for the first time Mannerheim’s role in saving Leningrad.
     
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    Mannerheim and Russia- hated and loved in St Petersburg

    Mannerheim memorial raises hackles in Russia

    9.8.2016

    Marshal C.G.E. Mannerheim might be a Finnish hero, but he spent a large portion of his early life in Saint Petersburg as a loyal soldier in the tsarist army before Finland became independent. Recently his old barracks in the city erected a plaque honouring the Marshal of Finland, and that's not been to everyone's liking.

    The problem is Mannerheim's contested role in the Second World War. Many Russians remember Mannerheim's role as commander in chief of Finnish forces in the conflict, when Finland allied with Nazi Germany during its invasion of the Soviet Union.

    They view Mannerheim as partly responsible for the siege of Leningrad, a brutal battle in which some 640,000 people died over the course of some 900 days. Some historians Mannerheim was a reluctant participant in the siege, but had few options when the two belligerents were totalitarian military regimes.

    That could be difficult for the Russian authorities. The Russian Culture Minister Vladimir Medinsky and Sergei Ivanov—often seen as President Vladimir Putin's right-hand man—attended the unveiling in June.

    Finland's consul-general in Saint Petersburg, Mikko Kivikoski, is reluctant to second-guess Russian motivations in putting up the memorial now.

    "Maybe they want to re-appraise Mannerheim's role in Russian history," said Kivikoski
     
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    Personally I never forgive the Russians they made a pact with Germany in 1939 they could occupy and do whatever they wish to do with Finns. Even the Finnish communists fought the Winter War and practically there was no sabotage in our land.
    Desants? They killed innocent civilians behind the lines to create fear and make us ask for peace. That is war? Not seeking military targets instead?? No, they were given the object of killing unarmed civilians. I would have refused the mission We know it, the Russians know it and yet claim they are heroes. Hope the nightmares continue as you killed little kids. Whoever is still alive.
     
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    Like Stalin said after the Winter War. " The Estonians go to Siberia by train but the Finns walk there."
     

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