Fury (2014)

Ha

 

Even the Waffen SS was scraping below the bottom of the barrel by then. I'd say training beyond point and shoot would have been hard to come by.

 

Besides, it wasn't a full regiment that ran into Fury at the crossroads. Not many, if any of them left in the German inventory in April of 1945. It was about 300 or so men cobbled together from who knows how many units. And Gromit is right, their training probably left much to be desired at that point.

 

This year, yep.

And Gaines, go clean out your inbox too. It's clogged up like Poppy's is.

 

Although I agree with the scarce training of German troops at the time, the idea of blatantly running, guns ablaze, at an immobile Sherman a lack of common sense or human condition. Get behind cover at least.

 

A-58, so 125 undeleted messages is too maNY????? i STARTED DELETING BUT ROME COULD HAVE CONQUERED GAUL IN LESS TIME THAN IT TOOk TO GET DOWN TO 80 !!!!....Sorry, caps was on. I was trying to use shift to do a batch delete but was defeated. I will delete 25 a day until done

I ask Poppy for computer advise but no response !!!!

Gaines

 

A few troops did use cover, probably veterans who had survived thus far. Not sure I can compare fanatical Waffen SS with common sense, if they had any they'd had never become SS.

 

Surely you are aware that from 1943 onward an increasing number of new Waffen-SS conscripts did not have the luxury of choice...?

 

I doubt that was in the mind of the director during this last scene. It hurt a decent flick IMO.

 

If we had a authentic wartime experience in a WWII movie it would go something like this:

First we would stand in line for 2 hour's for our tickets, another hour for our concession's.

The movie would start several hours late.

Our seat would have a large pointed object in it and no matter how we tried to get comfortable our butt would still hurt.

The popcorn would be stale, with no butter. Our soda would be flat and a Diet Coke when we ordered a Root Beer.

Once the movie began we would be treated to 20 minutes of watching guy's clean their weapon's (Kodiak's favorite part).

the next hour and ten minutes would be of guy's walking/riding down the road with nothing more than a vague sense of unease.

The finale would be about 5 minutes long, mostly you would see little other than guys hiding behind cover with little or no idea who was doing what to whom.

You would leave the theater confused who won or lost the most, only to find you have two flat tires and no bars on your cell phone.

But hay, you would know what it was like to be a G.I.!

 

I think Full Metal Jacket went some way towards that...and it worked! I was captivated...sometimes the small things done right are cinema gold. (Stanley Kubrik doesnt hurt either).

 

Low melt choc top - for the eating of...

 

The first half of Full Metal Jacket was good, the second half, the combat part, was pretty much garbage.

 

Agreed. By the time the chopper landed, Matthew Modine was becoming increasingly annoying.

 

I'm very insulted by Biak's post, but still vaguely aroused.

I heard a story by a Vietnam vet not long ago. They were on a high hill overlooking a highway somewhere and in the middle of the night shooting broke out below them from a column on the road. Assuming it was an ambush they opened up with an M2 on the "target" that the people on the highway were shooting, evidenced by their tracers. Everyone in their group (on the hill) soon opened up on the area where the M2 tracers were going. So, thousands of rounds are pouring into this area next to the highway.
Whoever was in charge on the hill called in artillery on the area where all the tracers were going. As soon as the artillery started the people on the highway vamoosed, because why wouldn't they? And the guys on the hill cheered because they had saved this column of trucks. When the shooting died down, they sent out listening posts and spent the entire night on alert. And in the morning, a teeth gritting patrol was sent down to this area to find absolutely nothing except destroyed vegetation. The kicker was that when it was all straightened out, somebody in the column had accidentally fired a weapon and then the whole column had begun shooting in the same area, then the people on the hill began shooting, but by then whoever was in charge of the column had already figured it out and halted the shooting - but now artillery was dropping 200 yards away so they revved up and drove away as fast as they could.

I just thought "wow" so that's what war is like.

 

Thus begat the first Knob Creek.

 

WARNING: Spoilers Ahead

I dislike the whole 'invulnerable main cast tank thing'....first the scene where they're told to go clear a field/hedgerow of German ATGs that have been wreaking havoc. They arrive, lots of destroyed tanks and vehicles all over the place...and the Germans have now forgotten how to aim and hit a tank! The first head scratching moment.

Then the scene with the Tiger...really? All the other tanks take one-shot and are killed, yet our fearless crew of the Fury are in an invincible tank and either dodge the shells or have them 'bounce' off of their tank, no injuries or anything.

And that final scene...oh good lordy...a fearsome SS unit, singing songs, marching down the road, armed to the teeth...can not take out an immobilized tank that has no support of any kind? So the little Hitler Youth Fantatics can hide in the woods and take out a tank with a panzerfaust at near point blank range (earlier in the movie) but not their older brethren? Especially since the parting shot of the movie shows dead SS troops encirciling the tank. I wasn't aware that tanks could shoot behind them back then - every action shot was firing forward. Also, mad credit to the super night vision german sniper at the end as well.

Too many things wrong and out of place in that movie to ever make me want to see it again.

 

The Haunted Tank. DC comic where the ghost of General Stewart guards a special/ invulnerable tank. Was my favourite comic as a kidlet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunted_Tank

The HT first appeared in #87 - May 1961 issue of G.I. Combat:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Combat