German Nuclear Bomb

You know, that's an excellent point. The dangers of radiation were not well-understood at first, and in fact in the early part of the century it was promoted as therapeutic.
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2004-08/healthy-glow-drink-radiation

 

Indeed. A point I'd forgotten to consider. Not that I was all that convinced before it was brought up but now ....

 

Well the West secretly used top Nazis in the Cold War and immediately started smuggling them out to work for the CIA and NATO, so sneaking someone's corpse like Bormann's into the British sector, which is feasible, to hide what the West was really doing and make it look like the story from the war which was never found or proven somehow came true 30 years later.

 

Bormann could have rallied support both financially and ideologically for a covert fight against the Soviets, at the same time this service is what granted them survival by the Western Powers, albeit in a sneaky, underhanded way.

 

You do realize how crazy that sounds, right?

The corpse was of a man in their mid-40's.
The DNA identified the man as Bormann.
The facial reconstruction identified the man as Bormann.
The skull had pieces of the glass poison (cyanide) ampule still embedded in its bone.



So what in your "opinion", was the West really doing, and why was there a real need to discover a body in 1972?

With the body only discovered 12 meters away from where it was supposed to be, do you think the German authorities in the 60's should've spent millions excavating at least 1,000 sqm (that's an area 9,000 sq. ft) area right next door to the Soviet zone, just to confirm the correct history and prevent such idiotic crackpot theories from surfacing 30 years later?

And how exactly did Bormann "rally support" as this reputed fugitive from justice while allegedly hiding in a Patagonian forest? Where is this trail of money and contacts needed to achieve such a preposterous feat? What "financial" or "ideological" support did he provide while hiding from Israeli agents, without revealing his whereabouts?

Israeli agents, I might add, that cleared up pretty well in South America;

The other high profile South American Nazis (Klaus Barbie, Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Franz Stangl) are quite well documented, their histories known, and any Western flaws and faults concerning their escapes and evasion admitted, even when authorities incorrectly thought them dead, or failed to get them extradited. Yet Bormann was apparently so special, he renders treatment.

Walter Rauff, an SS officer who "invented" the "Death Trucks" died in Santiago (Chile) in 1988, but was known since the Germans tried to extradite him already in 1963.

After the autopsy and examination in the 70's, even Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal said Bormann had died in Berlin in 1945.

So now I suppose the Western powers forced Wiesenthal to agree.

In 1992, the Argentinian President Menem disclosed full information on all Nazis in Argentina; it contained information on Mengele, Schwammberger, and others.

 

Heisenberg visited Bohr to get more ideas how to make the bomb but Bohr would not help.

And there were also three different projects in Germany what a surprise, the Heisenberg one, the SS one and the third one but I cannot recall who led it. These were discussed in the book by Paul Lawrence Rose. Heisenberg himself believed he needed a whole fission factory to make an explosion, he had calculated the weight of the needed radio-active matter wrong.

https://www.amazon.com/Heisenberg-Nazi-Atomic-Project-1939-1945/dp/0520229266

 

Care to name a few? Operation paperclip certainly doesn't count as it wasn't designed to staff the CIA which didn't exist until 1947 by the way. Which sort of brings to question the "immediate" thing.

 

Allen Dulles was working with Karl Wolf, Gehlen, and Dulles ran the show before the CIA became official. He said something along the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing .... They're on our side and that's all that matters. There is a great article called Allen Dulles: America's greatest spymaster or traitor? Which is historically accurate and writes a pretty ugly picture.

 

But that is a huge stretch to go from electing to work with people with specific knowledge and contacts within the world of Eastwards subterfuge and contraspionage you want to abuse, and shielding political dead-weight whose claim to fame is they controlled access to the Führer in the last 6 months of the war.

The persecutions of Nazis quickly faded beyond the political elite. Doctors, Lawyers, Judges, Engineers, Business owners, Film producers, Societal elite all benefited enormously from the Nazis, and amazingly none of them knew anything, and they were pretty much given a slap on the wrist, if that.

 

A government agency doesn't exist unless it's "official".

Wasn't all that familiar with some of the names so did a quick search. Only Karl Wolf that comes up on Wiki is a Canadian born in 1979. Karl Wolff on the other hand ... Let's see Dulles worked with him to get him to surrender German forces in Italy he then ends up in prison through the Nuremberg trials although he avoids a trial himself by turning states evidence. Doesn't sound like "secretly usilng" or "smuggling out" to me.

 

Check the article out .... http://911nwo.com/?p=4335

There are plenty of historical fact and legitimate points in this.

 

And then they flush it all down the toilet by bringing in the Illuminati...

There are plenty of historical facts and legitimate points in this too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w05naS4E-g4

 

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You're probably thinking of Baron Manfred von Ardenne, whose nuclear program was funded by the Reich Postal Ministry, of all things. (No idea if he was related to the Forest....)

 

Not that rare...wasn't von Braun's very early rocketry sponsored by them?

 

That's why anything that remotely goes against the hero narrative is just wiped away. Just because someone may not agree or want to hear the truth, doesn't mean that what all those US corporate fascists did in the 20s and 30s didn't happen. Do you deny that many Wall Street Firms helped build up the Nazis and hide their assets do to the lawyering of people like Allen Dulles. Do you deny that Prescott Bush's assets weren't seized by the FBI in 1942? They were. The Bush's, Dulles', Harrimans all worked together.

 

Under the Trading with the Enemy Act Prescott Bush's assets were seized from the Union Banking Company and the Hamburg-Amerika Line due to financial collusion with the enemy, Nazi Germany. That's fact. Let me guess, he innocently didn't know what he was doing with his and the German's money when he was hiding assets?