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Hitler's doctor

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  1. bedhead

    bedhead New Member

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    I have read that Hitler's doctor a man named Theodor Morell was sympathetic to the plight of the Jews. A story that a Jewish man went and seen the doctor and was treated rudely by mister Morello and his nurse but when his nurse left the room he stated that he was sorry about his treatment of the Jewish man and said that he had to while in front of his nurse that he said that she was a nasty Nazi. That got me thinking. Do you think that is possible that his cocktail of mind altering drugs which included cocaine, amphetamines and Morphine and plenty more were administered to Hitler in the Doctors attempt to make Him unfit to rule?
     
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    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Amphetamine alone will do it, oh Yes.....
     
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    Well, he met him in 1936, three years into his reign. His treatments began in earnest and he quickly began using his own experimental concoctions. Hitler at this time was gaining in popularity. I highly doubt he would have gone into Hitler's entourage with the thought of poisoning him. As the years passed and he was, as you pointed out, sympathetic towards Jews and against the pogroms, I could see it.
     
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    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Norman Ohler's recently-published book 'Blitzed - Drugs In Nazi Germany' contains much discussion about the various treatments which Morell administered to Hitler.
     
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    Does he hypothesize on intent in the book?
     
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    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Basically, the intention seems to have been something familiar to us today ie keeping hold of his job at all costs. Morell personally amassed a huge personal fortune thanks to his unique personal access to 'Patient X' . As time went on and Hitler became more stressed Morell constantly had to prescribe more and more medications in ever-varying formulations.

    The book is certainly worth a read......
     
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    Thanks Martin. I'll have to check it out
     
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    The records say that Hitler was becoming a maniac towards the end of the war. It is still unsure if it was the pressure on him or any diseases or any drugs that may have changed his thoughts and actions. It's still and always be a mystery.
     
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    Yes, he and his entourage (Himmler, Göring, Goebbels) went mad after they failed to eliminate their enemies, especially Churchill and Stalin. They just couldn't understand why they didn't collapse like other victims. And they knew what the future will bring.
    I mean: They murdered, they committed every thinkable crime, they lied all the time - and they knew they have to pay for it one day.
     
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    Hitler was on oxycodone, which was pioneered by the Germans, cocaine, meth, barbiturates, so it's no surprise he lost touch with reality.
     
  11. Kai-Petri

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    Göring for example, lost weigh in prison t because he believed they would use his knowledge of Germany to build it again. And so did many other nazis. So some waited the last months of war with some relief they would start with "new jobs".... this time they were put to trial.
     
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    Lol No. He lost weight because he was set on a diet and couldn't take his drugs any more.

    Maybe some of them like Dönitz or Speer. But most of them knew exactly what was coming. That's why the Wehrmacht fought a lost war for years and years - too many crimes had been committed. They just couldn't stop anymore.
     
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    Your correct about the drugs but Goering clearly believed early on at Nuremberg that he would be utilized by the Allies and be pardoned.
     
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    Usually when one quits drugs they gain weight. They weaned him off whatever painkiller he was on so it must have been gradual.
     
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    Göring was on Codein (a mild Morphin), it is not unusual to gain weight when taking it.
    I took Codein myself in my youth, it was common in prescripted drugs against influenza. But too many became addicted so now, you usually don't get it from your doctor anymore.

    Most Nazis knew exactly what they could expect. That's why they tried to escape or camouflaged their identity. Göring had lost contact to reality, so he was an exception.
     
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    Thank you all for your responces.
     
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    He was on para-codeine, a codeine derivative. Its slightly stronger. I guess he showed up to the American lines with 2 suitcases full of it. It must be nice when your in power to have a personal Dr. Feelgood.
     

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