Human catastrophe

Islamic Fundamentalism. You might also toss in centuries of oppressive dictators and schools which demonize every western humanitarian ideal of tolerance and logic introduced since the Renaissance. They are simply 500 years behind the west in terms of philosophical outlook. They're still burning witches while we're thinking up terms that won't offend the transvestite sitting at the next table.

 

Aww crap...Looks like the Russians are lying liars too...

https://www.rt.com/news/319677-belgium-army-base-attack/

I wonder how LJAd is going to react when he finds our the Russians are now lying liars...

 

I know few Arabs personally and I have several muslim friends. Therefore I know the truth. What you say is pure propaganda, demonization of nations and religion to justify inhumane NATO/Washington policies against innocent civilians and mass murders committed by the Democracies. Get serious and start thinking with your own head.

 

Well, 300 years behind the times...Witchcraft was still a capital crime in the United States until 1750, when it was de-listed as a capital crime. The last witch executed in the United States was in 1692, and the UK executed their last witch in 1727.

Does that mean that the West is more efficient at executing witches, or does it mean that our witches our better at hiding themselves?

 

The Russians were not lying : they were correctly reporting wat the prosecutor said := that there are no elements which allow us to say that the attack was carried out by a terrorist and that there were no proofs that the attack was carried out by someone mentally unstable .

The BLC was lying : it misrepresented what the prosecutor said : the prosecutor said on 3.30 :toutes les pistes restes ouvertes : all options,alternatives are still open : the prosecutor did not exclude the possibility of a terrorist attack.

the man was arrested 2 hours before the press conference,the result was that at the press conference the prosecutor still was groping in the dark .


PS : if the man was mentally unstable (for which at the moment of the press conference there was no proof),this does not exclude the possibility of a terrorist attack,unless one thinks mentally unstable and terrorist are excluding each other .

 

The BLC was lying,not for the first time : it lied also for the Charlie Hebdo attack .

 

It's even worse: They're inbred. They sleep with their sisters.

 

Sadly, it appears to us in the west, that it does boil down to #781
"Islamic Fundamentalism. You might also toss in centuries of oppressive dictators and schools which demonize every western humanitarian ideal of tolerance and logic introduced since the Renaissance. They are simply 500 years behind the west in terms of philosophical outlook. They're still burning witches while we're thinking up terms that won't offend the transvestite sitting at the next table."
Too true, that our society is so twisted that Bruce Jenner might win the Woman of the Year Award.
But if had to choose between extremes...Liberty or none: well call me Penelope.

 

Really? Assad, Hussein, Gaddafi... actually, I'll quit there because I'd have to list every single Arab nation. There is not a single Arab nation ruled by anyone but a corrupt and evil despot. There is not a single Arab nation which has not committed unthinkable atrocities against their own people. Every day people are stoned to death in the streets. People are beheaded, crucified, lashed, have limbs chopped off, are burned alive, tortured in prisons. And much of that is for "crimes" that wouldn't be crimes anywhere else. Homosexuality, sex outside marriage, uttering "insults" about Mohammed. And most of those heinous executions, lashings, stonings and chopping off of hands is done in front of cheering throngs of people. They love it!

That doesn't mean individuals can't overcome that sort of background, but when you look at those cheering throngs in the streets of Riyadh or elsewhere, you are seeing a majority who have nothing in common with a westerner.

Those rebelling against such tyranny are generally worse. As nasty as Assad is/was the rebellion by ISIS shows an even darker side. The burning and head chopping has expanded exponentially. And that rebellion, again, started in Tunis. What did the west do in Tunis to start the domino effect of head-choppings across the region?

 

Let's see

BBC Lie

Russian Truth

BBC Lie

Russian Truth

BBC Lie

Russian Truth

Conclusion...

 

Prove it.
I won't bother waiting though.

 

Really? Kennedy, Johnsson, Nixon, GHW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, Osama. American nation is ruled by corrupt and evil despots destroying other nations around the globe.

 

The BLC said that there was an APPARENT Islamist attack, while it was obvious for every one that it was not apparent but real .


The BLC (here : Tarik Kafala ) admitted that it refused to call a terorist a terrorist .

 

Everyday the US kills people by injection, electrification, gassing, hanging and firing squad. Groups stand outside the facilities that perform these killings and cheer when the news is announced of the death. These people would stand witness and witness the event if given the opportunity to do so in a public place. They love it!

The US has committed atrocities against it's own people; it has conducted biological warfare tests, deliberately spreading agents in cities without the knowledge of the public or health authorities. Project SHAD deliberately exposed unknowing US military personnel to wonderful cocktails without protection. Then there are the radiological experiments conducted on uninformed or deliberately misinformed citizens. The MKUltra experiments another. This is not in the dim and distant past, but within living memory. Thankfully, as far as we are aware, this behaviour has ceased. So 40 years, give or take.

Homosexuality was a clinical medical disorder in the US until 1973 (getting stuck in a psychiatric ward must've been fun), and illegal in most of the west just a few decades ago (Poland '32, UK '67). It still is in some nations in the Caribbean.

 

Silly me, I would suppose someone who hails from your part of Europe would have a better grasp on the nature of despot's. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tito, Milosevic, Anronesceu et al were true despots, who when they were removed from power, were done so by force. No American President, or British Prime Minister for that matter, ever wielded Absolute power.

Have they made mistakes? Without question, but to assert that these were done with malice aforethought is absurd.

 

You need to brush up on English; when stories are confused, journalists are always going to err on the side of caution. They won't say "Police have arrested a rapist"; what they will say is "Police have arrested a man on suspicion of rape".
No difference to "an apparent terrorist attack" when they don't yet have the full details. It comes down to legal niceties; they won't say something that could later land them in court.
And Kafala didn't say anything of the kind-
“We try to avoid describing anyone as a terrorist, or an act as being terrorist,”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/opinion/bbc-arabic-head-tarik-kafala-on-the-channels-increasing-significance-in-the-modern-world-10001667.html

Here in the real world, "try to avoid" and "refuse to" are two entirely different things.
That only proves he's a politically-correct clown who's terrified of offending someone, anyone, however remotely. It certainly doesn't prove there's any kind of "conspiracy".

 

Wrong in so many ways. I have no desire at all to be "overwhelemed by the propaganda" and indeed I haven't been. You on the other hand have definitly consumed the Russian koolaid.

That is not only incorrect it is nonsensical. The US encourages the spread of democracy but very seldom tries to impose it. Saudi Arabia is a long way from the most decadent or the most evil of all although Putin may think so.

What utter garbate. Sadam's Iraq and Assad's Syria were a long way from being the most progressive Arabs. In case you haven't noticed the info posted eslewhere on this thread the US gets very little oil from the Mid East.

Again that's hardly accurate. In the case of Syria "freedom fighters" was a very accurate term for those who first rose up against the Assad regime. Some turned to terrorism after a bit and certainly some terrorist were involed from the beginning and more got involved as time went on but that was widely recongized and the US was hardly the first to supply them with weapons and has indeed tried to be very careful who it supplied weapons to. In the mean time the Assad regime had and has been using not only bombs but chemical weapons on the civilian populace. Guess who supplied them with weapons?

Indeed and Assad and his regime are some of the worst terrorist in Syria. In the case of the rebels though it's hardly a matter of renaming. There are rebels who are true freedom fighter and rebels who are terrorist and depending on just how you define "terrorist" their may be some that are all three. But the Assad regime is clearly not composed of anything resembling "freedom fighters" and there is overwhelming evidence of their use of terrorist tactics against thier own population. A fact which you seem unwilling to acknowledge.

 

Care to list them? I've yet to see crimes that can legitmatly be ascribed to the US in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Nigeria, Somalia, Afghanistan, Serbia, Lebanon, or Korea. Unless you are going quite a ways back some of the others are questionable as well. So rather than making broad accusations with no facts to support them lets see specific charges. You should proably start another thread for it thous as it is off topic here.

 

It was also choosing extremely conservative investing. During parts of the 90's the index funds I was invested in were earning over 20% per year.

 

He may not give numbers for immigrants but the rapid increases in population in some fairly short periods of time make it pretty clear that there was signficant immigration.

As for the all the people quote. Indeed none have stated it but that's been the impression that has been left or at least the impression that it's true of the vast majority of those in the area and it is clearly questionable.

Of more signifigance is the fact that this does not argue for disinheriting anyone. The formation of the state of Israel didn't disinherit anyone. It was simply a change in who would administer the area. Furthermore their is evidence that the Jews in the area had been extremely careful of property rights and even in the state that evolved Palestinians are full citizens with more say and rights than they have in most if not all the territories not under Israels control.