Human catastrophe

Refuges aren't security treat. In my country there were just few minor offenses caused by the refugees. Real treat to the world security are those who encourage and finance terrorism worldwide and they seat somewhere in government offices. This what happened in Paris reminds me of Herschel Grynszpan case on 7 November 1938 in Paris too. I wonder how the propaganda will use this now.

 

I'll also put this in the terror thread, if permissable

look at post 989 and then this headline not 24 hours later--post 989 says '''WE ARE AT WAR'''

read 989 again--all points proven

 

they use '''refugees''' to set up safe cells and intelligence cells...this is a basic shadow war modus operandi...they might take 2, 3, or 5 years to set this up and establish their ''citizenship'.....besides, look at the Boston bombers....sure, Americans have used bombs--not many--and one of the incidents were perpertrated by immigrants....from Chechnya-
NO! cut the immigration and refugees down big time....

 

So, you think this is the #1 phase of "Invasion of Islamic Body Snatchers". I am sure they want to go back home as soon as the war ends.

 

go home?? ha......the USA really started to get serious on dawn air patrols---after Pearl Harbor was attacked....too late, no?

THIS IS WAR

post 989<>''shadow war''....very hard to identify enemy directly.....no front lines.....travel between warring states too easy!! let many come in???? no less, and less

 

Aren't you exaggerating? What happened in Paris lately for just one day is happening in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan for many years! We should use the same yardstick. Do you think that the French victims deserve more compassion than Arab? We should be equally concerned for all victims, regardless of their faith, nationality, color of skin or any other relevant attributes.

 

no, not if it is a civil war.....most people feel concerned, compassion for the deaths of innocents....but when they come to our country and kill innocents, we should and will ''napalm'' them, as Kodiak puts it... BURN em to hell!!.....now---I don't see these French killings as a civil war, but terrorists crossing borders....that's one of the differences...obviously, many different Arab peoples hate and want to kill America, France, etc....
America's policy is not to kill innocents, whereas these UNcomapssionate--as you put it--murderers do!

thanks for your replies

 

Well, that didn't take long...

The one passport found among the terrorists shows that he passed through Greece as a "refugee" a month ago.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/619447/Paris-terrorist-Syrian-refugee-Greece-government-official

 

as a matter of fact--yes.... , I do feel more compassion for when the western culture is attacked...If some one attacks my hometown--burn em!!!!....if someone attacks the US, burn em.....if someone attacks England, I don't feel as much, but I feel more than if they attacked a ME country....it's just human nature to be defensive of one's 'tribe'.....
some people think I'm a warmonger-war lover because of the books I read, etc...god knows what the librarian thought when I just got 4 books on the Gestapo and SS ! but I ---more than those that do not study war---, and of course except those who have been there, hate war..I try to realize the realities of war, conflicts.....yes I hate it when a Palestinian boy dies...or a Syrian mother.....a father has lost his son and a child their mother.....that should never be....but that is the way it is..
.the US cannot jump into every conflict and even if they could or I wanted to help , not much could be done....
no, people are not equally concerned for all...when something bad happens to the US the Pals, and people all over the world are happy ! the evil empire has been struck a blow...
should we be concerned for all?? the obvious answer is yes........some people are ...some aren't...it is how we are raised, our life, our area, etc that determines how much we are concerned..are we bad because we are less concerned?? definitely not....

 

And today a second Paris killer has been identified as a "refugee" who crossed through Greece. That makes two, one in October and one in August. The one captured alive is also Syrian, but I don't know if he came across in this current wave or has been there a while.

 

#1008
Found it weird that a terrorist would carry his passport while committing an atrocity. Dropped neatly onto the sidewalk where pictures could easily be taken...Isn't the first page in terrorism 101: don't carry your passport while shooting innocent people...

Have been hearing on bleeding heart liberal cbc- terrorist apologists explaining how male muslims in France don't fit in (because they don't try-duh), and how the West has been goading a reaction via drone bombing in the ME.

There is no mistake- this is only about religion, which determines their politics. isis wants to dominate the world, they have said as much. And part of the plan is to do so through immigration, population, religion and politics.

Time for the left to look hard at their ideals, and honestly decide whose side they are on. Liberty or tyranny.

 

I seem to remember tourists in France are supposed to carry their passports at all times in case they're stopped by the Police, that seemed to be the case when I was there many years ago.

 

Dropped neatly isn't exactly how it was found. It was found among the ragged pieces of meat and clothing after he detonated himself. They went in with the intention to die, so being ID'd was the least of their worries. They may have even been told to carry ID so ISIS could take credit for the propaganda value.

The bigger point is that at least some of these have come as "refugees" in the wave still pouring in.

 

Anecdotal evidence varies on travel site forums. Some always carry and swear by it. Some never carry, but leave it in the hotel/room safe and have never needed it. Some leave it in the safe but carry a photocopy & their Driver's License.

It all depends one one's experiences...

 

WRT the passports...

Were there not several news stories on how Syrian passports were being quickly and easily faked, as well as real ones being lost or stolen.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/08/growing-concern-over-trade-in-fake-and-stolen-syrian-passports
http://www.businessinsider.com/fake-syrian-passport-market-is-booming-2015-9
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34150408
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235320/PASSPORT-TERROR-MailOnline-reporter-buys-Syrian-papers-sold-ISIS-fighters-sneaking-Europe-hidden-refugees.html
http://newobserveronline.com/isis-terrorist-arrested-in-stuttgart-refugee-center-boxes-of-fake-syrian-passports-intercepted/

Just because Bomber X was carrying the passport of Syrian Resident A does not mean much unless his remains can be visibly identified and the passport proves to be legit.

 

All migrants (disguised as refugees) are security risks .

There is a traffic in false/ stolen real identity carts and passports,so that it is impossible to distinghuish real and false refugees.

Besides,there is a big difference between identity carts and passports .

 

Seem to recall the picture of passport on sidewalk showed it to be in good condition. Will look for picture of it.
Remember the rumours after 911 of passports/ID's being impossibly found.
The devil is in the details.

 

Dont' bother...

The photo of which you speak is source to Serbian media, and would not have been in the condition, if it was the one found with his remains.

 

As I said, it was a lot of years ago.
I always carry my photocard driving licence on me, just something I've always done.

 

what was the deal with the 9-11 passports?