Insignias, badges, medals and clasps

sadly and it is almost unbelievable to me..........

EK 2 stamped "100"

ah but there still is hope

 

I need one for my collection

 

second class,bought from jersey 3yrs ago..

 

same fro me but found under the Christmas tree last Christmas (decorating a bottle of Whiskey )

 

Great thread to start,

Ek1 L11 cased,
Ek1 L58 screwback
Ek2 with round 3
Ek2 mm 100 near mint with packet.
EK2 mm 100 (my first ever)
EK2 marked Rudolf Souval

Best regards John

 

Hi H/ it might help others more knowledgable on W-SS stuff, if you have more info on these? such as-where worn on tunics if worn? etc.

Personally, i've never seen anything likt this worn on any W-SS uniforms and especially of that of Men like Peiper.

Best regards-C.

PS, I am not passing any judgement or opinions on these as im absolutely not-an expert on W-SS items.

 

Hi Guys and thanks for the replies. Looks like we have enough combined to award to an expanded Infantry Platoon. Anyway, not bad totals so far. ;-))

I had totally forgot that I have a mint EKII w/ mint packet-I don't have it out to tell which maker? but this thing still had all of its "frosting" on the arms. I have not looked closely enough at the ring to see if its maker-marked or not?

I don't have any screwbacks yet but will have one at some point ;-))

 

Hi Carl ..

Never seen them worn too .

As far as I can tell their worn over the crossband thats attached to the zweidorn belt . Supposed to be be worn on the middle of the chest , so they'll be straight in the eyesight .
Each of this leaves carries a specific inscription on the back as they were 'rewards' . Some do directly relate to the death camps , others suggest being handed out after a succesfull well known military operation .

Reason I think the red copper ones are just 'copies' has to do with the inscriptions .. they're not named and dated like the way the bronze one is . Met someone in Holland who also has a few of these picked up in a collection from Belgium , all red copper ones , but two of his bear same inscriptions as mine and thats not good as these are supposed to be stricktly individual items .(one off's).

Wished I had some more factual info about them Carl..heard a lot of stories already .. enough to know the leaves did exist and as objects are not fantasy . Wether these are all real would be another question but i'm happy with these anyway , they look great in a display , but was hoping they might trigger a bell somewhere

(P.S. The name on the back is not Peiper ..)

 

Hi Heinrich, well you certainly do know much more on these than I probably can ever hope to know ;-)) I hope you success in getting any info you require. Im mainly an Army collector so I just have no cluage as to anything dealing with these.

PS, I was using Peiper as an example ;-)) However, if your meaning something to do with either Generals and or Knights Cross Recipients-that is right up my alley ;-))

Anyway, im certainly not against someone having something very rare or as a one of a kind type thing. I have a few things that fit that pistol-such as a 7 place ribbonbar that is attributed to the Grand Duke of Mecklinburg/Schwerin-Franz Friedrich von Grosssherzog IVth, a 3 place 1870 ribbonbar that either belonged to the Kaiser himself-or to a member of his inner circle? It's never been factually established which one of those Gents had once been the owner of said ribbonbar, but the ribbonbar has a certain award that would have only been worn by a member of said inner circle-or the King himself ;-)) And then theres a matter about four pairs of shoulderboards I own, one as research was done by a Geneologist by the name of rick-who did the research for me several years ago-said that one of my pairs of boards-which definately had belonged to a Rittmeister-could have at one time, been the property of future GFM Ewald von Kleist. I don't want to say definately that these boards were his but, there was a I think? 1 in 3 or 4 chance that these were indeed his. Lastly, I do have three pairs of boards (Inf, Gebirgsjager and Panzer-that had indeed once been the personal property of three diff Knights Cross Recipients ;-)) Not that im bragging of course-just my long-winded way in hoping that your feelings on these SS items indeed are as you feel them to be ;-))

Cheers and hope you enjoy being on this site ;-))

Best regards-_Carl.

 

Thought I would re-post about this CCC. I found out the other day that this is in fact a transitional design between the 1.12.1 and 1.12.2 in Thomas Durants book. The bayonet crossguard is the same as the 1.12.1, and does not have the scooped out portion to the crossguard of the 2nd pattern. Although the rest of the CCC, including the reverse is the same as the 1.12.2
Thought that might be helpful.

regards John

 

one 1914 EK 'KO' marked .........that's all for now

 

I would like to see peoples "one of a kind" or extremely rare items. I unfortunatly don't own anything like that ... at least I think. But it would still be interesting to see a collection of these wonderful examples.

 

I would like to post them but I don't have a way to post them or I would have posted them years ago. I wish you had some rare and one of a kind things to boast about and post as well.

Some of my stuff has indeed been posted here-and long ago. Also, you can see some of my rare stuff over on Marcus Wendels site, a few items on WTG, as well as stuff posted here a few months ago.

Cheers.

 

Hi Andy, my 1914 EKI and one of my 1914 EKIIs-which were a part of a small grouping-both are KO marked ;-))

 

very nice Carl, mines an EKII as well. am i right in saying that KO was the Kaiser's personal maker (or one of them anyway) ???

 

Hi Andy, yessir you are correct. KO was his favorite awards maker, or so I have been told ;-))

 

Erich, Skipper, Martin, Ray, Collector, if any of you are interested in getting some more decent 1939 EKIIs and don't want to pay the average to well above average going prices for these things, I know where you can still get some good ones for $65. each. Send me a PM if interested in knowing where these are @? ;-))

 

Hi Guys

Thought I would share my latest...A Bronze zinc hollow Deumer, tough one to track down with any finish left. Here she is...

Best regards, fischer

 

Another nice one Fischer mate.
I love the expression on the eagles face!

BW John

 

Thanks Guys...I really like the Deumer ISA's because of the unique design they used. The Bunt metal examples are one of my top 10 favorites.

This one completed my Duemer examples.

Best Regards, fischer