Merkel Apparently Fears Devastating Defeat of the Ukrainian Army

Tibet certainly was independent and the evidence is that the native Tibetans still would like to be. Of course the relative numbers of Tibetans and Chinese in Tibet are chaning in favor of the Chinese.

On the other hand the breakup of the USSR was certainly a lot less bloody than many (including myself) expected.

 

Appreciate Mr Bunde and his efforts.
This guy (two thumbs) has to admit it doesn't look so good for Mr Putin. Recent events and all.
Too bad the Russian people have to suffer under him. Worked with a few Russians and they were great fun. Best wishes yonder.

 

More details on the assasination than I had seen before here:
http://www.strategypage.com/on_point/20150303215348.aspx
maybe old had to some of you though.

 

Putin said he has list of the possible killers. I have an idea of the names:

Merkel
Obama
Cameron
Berlusconi
Poroshenko
Jesus Christ
Messi
God
Cristiano Ronaldo
Kanye West
Bill Gates
Leonardo Di Caprio

.....

 

My list would be shorter:
Putin minion #1 with involvment of Putin minions 2 through N.

 

The US has sent some 300 men to Ukraine to train the soldiers there...Putin won´t like it but I guess we gotta put more power to the game??

 

Well said and thought out, L.

 

Well I saved some links which I will provide, because it seems many people still believe Kiew is/was a legitimate government (on which they base their support for it - as it seems or just they don´t like Putin/The Russians, I don´t like Putin too btw. I don´t like most politicans in fact)....


http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/140987/keith-darden/ukraines-crisis-of-legitimacy

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2014/03/russia-in-ukraine-a-reader-responds/
http://scgnews.com/washingtons-role-in-the-ukrainian-coup-how-it-may-spin-out-of-control

A lot to read tho.... if you have time for it. This is just to support one of my claims above - which was named as "rubbish" or "nonsense" iirc.

 

From the "about us" section in the first link-
"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is an independent, nonpartisan membership organization, think tank, and publisher. CFR members, including Brian Williams, Fareed Zakaria, Angelina Jolie, Chuck Hagel, and Erin Burnett"
I'm still laughing at Angelina Jolie being touted as an "expert" on anything. Besides that, it's on the same level as the pub experts having a discussion on something.

From the "about us" section on the second link-
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http://www.lawfareblog.com/2014/03/russia-in-ukraine-a-reader-responds/

In other words, it's a glorified gossip column.

Third link- a conspiracy site run by someone so "brave" he wont even tell people his name.
Get a grip. Do you have links to anything besides conspiracy websites and Russian propaganda?

 

Thanks Historian, out of salutes for the day already. Can't say I'm surprised at your findings though.

 

Well the first 2 sites are perfectly legitimate, do research about the council of foreign relations. Thats actually a very pro (US) government think tank.
3rd site provided enough evidence in links, video and photos (other sources agree with it) for my taste if you dismiss it, that´s your thing. You can with this method dissmiss anything or anyone as conspiracy site or nut - a method which is very widly used to silence voices I might add.

Also you read that quite fast and dismiss it already... telling. And no arguments at all. Not that I am surprised

 

The appropriate phrase being "think tank", ie a bunch of egos dictating to the rest of the world how we're all out of step with them. The second one is a method of impressing your Facebook mates- it even tells you that.
Third is bullshit, pure and simple.

 

Yeah right. OSCE report didn't give you enough information and assurance but you believe these amateur sites blindly? The third link was beyond laughable, sorry. But of course you believe these sites fully as they serve your own personal (Putin's) propaganda purposes.

 

First one is correct, as I don´t agree with most ideas of this "think tank" if you would read the link actually they are in line with your views, they only say that the government wasn´t legitimate and think it was mistake in their strategy.... You are entitled to your opinion of bullshit however no problem with me

@ edhunter: See you also did not read and research. I would make happily "propaganda" for Putin if he pays me enough and you are right he actually send me an e-mail telling me to post more of it here. I will get a russian blonde and an hero of the soviet union for it

Haha, propanda is used by both sides, but you believe only your own. That´s fine with me friend I look at both sides.

 

I wasn't asking your permission.

 

Fine, I still agree with you.....everything is bullshit that doesn´t fit your ideas. So we actually agree on this issue. And disagree about the Ukraine issue, also fine with me, you have permission to post more no argument posts

 

Foreign Affairs has a record of publishing incredibly biased and sloppy articles. While a decent source of quick reviews on what's happening in the world thier I wouldn't consider most of their articles as being above high school freshman grade C article. They tend to be long on opinion short on fact and use extrmely convoluted logic as well as ignoring counter points to their theories. It's not really a "pro US" think tank at all. It's a left wing think tank that is currently well disposed to the Obama administration. That said the article is still quite critical of Russias efforts it also seems to be considerably out of date given the date at the top.

 

I did all the research I needed, thanks. I'm not that stupid to think that propaganda isn't used by both sides, of course they are. Ones truth depends always on the perspective.

But I was refererring to OSCE report which isn't propaganda at all.

You looking at both sides - that comment should be posted Joke of the day section, it is so funny. From all the people commented on this thread, you look at the both sides the least.

 

The only serious claim to legitmacy that I saw in the article by the way was that Yanukovych was not removed in the way specified by law (a point I've made previously). However there were clearly extinuating circumstances and we have addressed those. You have made no attempt to present any sort of logical argument that supports your position in any case.

 

Is this so ? I want peace in Europe, and both sides were pouring fire in the conflict. Also even if I was on the "rebels" side, thats perfectly ok as NO ONE here seems to be on their site. One must speak for them too..... if this was a balanced place my attitude would change maybe. Only dead fish swim with the stream. So you are correct that I looked on one side more than the other, but only because say 90% here already cover/support the other side. And you say ME is one sided ? Really ? I am 10% and "your side" is 90% (estiminated) thats really a balanced thread, yes?

I also wonder if you (and Historian) still believe JFK was killed by a lone gunman named Lee Harvey ?

Edit: Let´s see some of peoples claims here:

a )Kiew regime is legitimate - fact: false as shown in links
b ) Rebels (russians, Putin himself?) shot down MH17 - fact: no proof or evidence for this at all - investigation ongoing
c) Kiew is winning because rebels are only "stupid peasants" - fact: As I predicted in OP rebels stood their ground so some western powers finally had to negotiate.
d) Sanctions to Russia will cause them to back down - fact: They aren´t up to now.