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Discussion in 'Military History' started by Ironcross, Oct 12, 2006.

  1. raj-rif

    raj-rif Member

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    no matter how much you may dominate in the air, you will always need the PBI (Poor Bloody Infantry) to hold it on the ground
     
  2. Kerem

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    And that Poor Bloody Infantry will always encounter guerilla resistance.
     
  3. Mussolini

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    Look at Korea...we dominated the air but they all hid underground! I assume that by now, North Korea is just a mass of underground networks going 20 stories down, with exits into China. As powerful as Airpower is, its only 2D...it can only look down on things. It cant look inside of buildings, or underground, or (when robotic) make decisions it needs to. Infantry has always and will always be the core to any army.
     
  4. TA152

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    Kerem, picture number two will be your future in a few days. I know how thrilled you will be to meet new helpful friends. You can tell them about the F-35 and impress them with your wisdom. :D

    http://www.bootcampdaze.50g.com/
     
  5. Stefan

    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    TA, don't forget the 'silent moments' with you're platoon Sgt and CSM.

    Have fun Kerem, I think I'll keep aiming for a commission, at least they have to add 'sir' at the end ;)
     
  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    With friends like these who needs enemies :D

    Carry on, Kerem, we'll gladly hold your coat [​IMG]
     
  7. Stefan

    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    Top tip, 'pinups' in you're note-book. That's what keeps me going!
     
  8. Kerem

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    LoL, guys. I am being sent to the 58th Inf. which is located south of Turkey. I heard that after one month basic training they send us to Cyprus :eek:

    So I'll be invading E.U. soil. [​IMG]

    I am leaving this Tuesday, I guess I can get accsess to internet there. Sorry TA but I heard there are not such furious drill instructors there (I hope they are right :rolleyes: ). The Army is careful about not breaking the feelings of guys who serve only 5 months. I hope to get back to real life by May. :D
     
  9. Skipper

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    Congratulations Kerem, I'm sure you'll get internet access there. Cyprus will be a nice experience too, have a glass of Raki on me.
     
  10. Ironcross

    Ironcross Dishonorably Discharged

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    True, but only to an extent. With the technology we have now, we can make planes that are capable of flying extremely high and attacking with deadly accuracy. What happens if the other side’s supply line gets raided twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week? How long can they remain underground? It will not take anything more than a few good CIA agents and a few million dollars worth of bribe to discover huge underground networks, I am afraid that the underground networks can't remain "underground" to any good intelligent network. In the future, whoever controls the air, and eventually space, will dominate.
     
  11. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Well, no doubt the US are controlling the air in Iraq, but what is the ground being dominated? This needs more thinking. The US did a fine job in winning the war in Iraq, winning the peace is being another kettle of fish. I don't see how it can be better in North Korea.

    And remember both Kims had decades to stockpile supplies in those very tunnels and caves (which by definition are difficult to locate, and if you really want to smash them you need very accurate info where their weakspots are), so your supply line attack won't have much effect either.
     
  12. Ironcross

    Ironcross Dishonorably Discharged

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    Wow, how happy I am to see your reply. I thought you put me on your ignore list for sure after the post from the fish.
    As for Iraq, my choice of weapon would be terror. Remember, "we do not need them to love us; we only need them to fear us"-Himmler. Air weapons have no effect because they are not fighting a standing army, they are figting rats.
    Plus, I never considered our posts to be any “arguments”, for I favor no side except the truth. Since I wish to make sure my understanding of the facts to be true, therefore, I posted my understanding in exchange for yours. It would be wrongful to take any information we exchange personal, since it was never my intension.
     
  13. Kerem

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    It looks like it takes more than a few good CIA agents and a few million dollars worth of bribe to locate Osama Bin Laden. :confused:

    Air/space superiority is good in a conventional combat. But you simply can't send a missle to militia wandering around. You need PBI to get him.
     
  14. Ironcross

    Ironcross Dishonorably Discharged

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    Bin Laden can't be considered a "huge network".
     
  15. Kerem

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    But his organization is.

    Anyways no need to take this any further, what I mean is air superiority is not saving the Marines ass in Iraq. But sure it does lessen their burden.
     
  16. TA152

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    Good luck to you on Tuesday Kerem ! I do hope you are right and I am wrong about the drill instructors. [​IMG]

    You added alot of good information to the forums. [​IMG]
     
  17. Skipper

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    I'm sure Kerem will find a way to keep in touch while he'll be eating mud, getting up at 5a.m. and climbing ropes while being shouted at by his drill serge
     
  18. Stefan

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    Good luck Kerem. Hopefully it'll be a positive experience.

    Don't forget the rest of the coalition ;)
     
  19. Kerem

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    Agree 100%.
     

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