Most over rated general of the war?

In what way were the Allies "less-developed?"

 

Fixed to a standing I can read without getting mad :\

 

Its not fair to say the Germans were inferior, They deserve credit for fighting two fronts simutainiously with almost all of their forces on one of them.

 

Yes I know, it was supposed to be a bad joke

 

Ahhh ok.

 

Germany lost the majority of thier best troops on the eastern front. When D-day arrived the Western wall was not manned by crack German troops.

In the Pacific we were fighting a fanatical enemy who was brainwashed not to surrender, but instead fight to the last breath. Nimitz and the Marines did the majority of the fighting against the Japanese. Mac took New Guinea and then the Philipines.

 

Didn't mean UnDeveloped ,but as U Know US Army in WW2 was Superior in Numbers but not very much in Technology on German!!
By the way Sherman Was firing Multiple shots at Tiger (all Bounce off) While the Tiger picked it with one Shot!!
No Offend meant 2 the US Army!!
Later Came Pershing & other Heavy Tanks!!

 

I find it somewhat interesting about how the Allies had never really came out with a heavy tank to match the Tiger. Sure there was the Matilda and the Jumbo but the Matilda had a rather Poor arnament although Im not sure about the MK2. The Jumbo from what I understand had engine problems due to stress on the engine.

It is quite humerous though how similar the Pershing looks to a Tiger I.

 

You must remember that the Sherman was never designed to fight one on one tank battles with German Heavies. That was supposed to be a job for the Tank Destroyers.

 

An excerpt from "The Rising Tide", by Jeff Shaara, pages 261-264

 

You're right, after all, the first tanks (WWI of course) were originally made and designated as "Infantry Support Vehicles", the precise job of the Sherman. The tank was produced with a 75mm just for protection from enemy tanks, where it could, in numbers of one or two, could go toe-to-toe with a standard Panzer IV F2 and win. Tigers however, they would need about 6 or 7 of those babies to take out the Panzer V.

 

One on ones of the Tiger vs Sherman were not very common. Tigers would usually operate in groups of 4, this is where the high kill count comes from. So more accurate numbers would be 20 Shermans plus however many Paks versus 4 tigers and the Result would likely be 10 Shermans forced to retreat, 10 Shermans destroyed. Against one Tiger destroyed or heavily damaged and light damage to the rest. This would be a common result as most Tigers operated quite close to their defences and infantry support. Paks were really the only thing that was effecinet at tanking them out, aside from aircraft.

 

Paks? Weren't they German?

I assume you mean 57mm and 76mm AT guns

 

Yes, I just use that as Generic term.

 

Not always.
In one battle 6 Tigers v approximately 15 Sherman's resulted in 5 Tigers lost with no Sherman's lost

 

It was very frequent for a Tiger to fight on itself or in pairs in the west. There were few runners, they were spread thin and must dodge fighter bombers. This was true of German tanks and assault guns of all types. People forget how small unit type skirmish was far more predominant than epic tank battles.

 

OK Where did that Happen?? When?? Need More Details!!
I guess The Shermans didn't hit The tigers!! (Artillery & Air Force did!!)
Unless If these 15 Shermans Were with FireFlies Or Fairlies!!

 

Ok I hadn't much time to read your Quote!! But I've a Qusetion! How Could The 37 mm Gun of The Staurt penetrate a German Tank?? From Frontal!! It seemed to be a Scene from some old WW2 Movie!!
Just What's your Point??

 

There were very few Sherman/Fireflys (not Fairly) constructed. And with the exception of a couple used by the US in tests were all deployed in British units. And just for fun, what is your point?

Firefly modification was expensive, complicated, and could only be done on certain models of the Sherman. Would you like more data?

 

No don't need More Data Thanks Sir!! You've Explained Well!
I know What was Tanks Formations in WW2 (3 Sherman+1 Firefly)!!
I guess There was Sherman-Fairly or M4A2 (76)W!! also with 76mm Cannon = 76 mm one for the FireFly ,but with different Characters!! The FireFly 17 Pounder or 76mm was little more Powerfull Than the US 76mm!!
By The Way Good Explanation!!