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Discussion in 'Quiz Me!' started by skunk works, Aug 7, 2008.

  1. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Carburetor intakes. The round scoop on the wing is the oil cooler.
     
  2. machine shop tom

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    The landing gear have a familiar look........

    tom
     
  3. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Heres a hint. Not Wright-Cyclones. They are 680 hp Hispano-Suiza engines.
     
  4. wh1skea

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    Zmaj R-1?
     
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  5. Kruska

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    Bloody hell wh1skea, you are darn good. How did you come across this aircraft? I have been searching on Italian and Romanian aircraft for the last 2 days.

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  6. wh1skea

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    The last clue helped narrow my search, but even with that, I just kind of stumbled upon the answer.
     
  7. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Correct!!!!! I too just stumbled upon the aircraft in my searches LOL. Quite a nice looking aircraft :)

    "Zmaj R-1
    One prototype Zmaj R-1 ordered March 1938 and delivered in April 1940 for trials and evaluation. Twin-engined fighter-destroyer. 680 hp Hispano-Suiza 14Ab engines. Damaged on landing soon after first flight and repairs took until February 1941. Evaluation had not resumed by the time of the April 1941 attack by Germany. Captured by the Germans, but destroyed by sabotage in late June 1941, before it could be handed to the Croatian Air Force."


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  8. SaltyShellback

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    JCF-nice stumper there. Was up until 0300 pst, and since 1000 pst today. Spent almost two days on this. Didn't even see it in my copy of Jane's All the Worlds Aircraft 1938.

    wh1skea-good catch.

    Next one please.

    Take care,
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  9. TA152

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    Yes I agree it was a very nice looking aircraft but the German fighters would have shot them down in droves.
     
  10. JCFalkenbergIII

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    AHHHHHH, But we will never know since it was never completely evaluated or used in combat will we? :p
     
  11. TA152

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    When I read up on it the source said it was a bomber destroyer. That concept was tried by the UK, Germany, and perhaps France. That is what I base my forecast on. It may not even be able to go as fast as a JU-88. Just a Yugo with wings ?
     
  12. wh1skea

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    OK, here's the next one....

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  13. Kruska

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    Oh thats easy - it's a Messerfire :D or Spitschmidt

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  14. 4th wilts

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    jerry mk 9 spitfire .:confused:
     
  15. wh1skea

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    I'll give it to Kruska. It is in fact Supermarine Spitfire Vb - coded EN830 / CJ+ZY fitted with a DB605A after being captured by the Luftwaffe.
     
  16. Kruska

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    Okay no Joke okay :D

    It is a captured Spitfire MK V with a DB 605 Engine.

    Thanks wh1skea, www.luftarchiv.de

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    I have seen that picture before but I don't have enough brain cells to remember where. Excellent camoflage job !
     
  19. SaltyShellback

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    Kalinin K-12 (BS-2) Zhar Ptitsa (Firebird)

    The Kalinin K-12 was a scaled-down three-seat prototype proof-of-concept aircraft for a far larger tailless bomber, the K-13 bomber, this bird flew pretty well, despite having no tail. Also known as the BS-2 or the Zhar-Ptitsa (Firebird), this pre-WW2 Russian design is credited to K.A. Kalinin.

    Design began at Voronezh in 1934. A glider of similar lines, with a 29 ft. 6½ in. (9.0 m) span made a hundred flights before the K-12 was proceeded with. The K-12 flew in autumn 1936 and was demonstrated at Tushino on 18th August 1937, in a garish colour scheme representing a bird. The aircraft was of welded steel-tube construction with fabric covering, and was powered by two 480 hp M-22 radial engines. It featured dummy nose and tail turrets.

    Work on the scaled-up K-12 ended when Kalinin was arrested in spring 1938 and his design bureau disbanded and reportedly shot.

    Dimensions:
    Span: 68ft 8.75in / 20.95m
    Length: 33ft 10.25in / 10.32m
    Weights:
    Empty: 6,768lb / 3,070kg
    Fuel/oil: 1,102lb / 500kg
    Loaded: 9,259lb / 4,200kg
    Performance:
    Engine- 2 PE M-22
    Power - 2 @ 480 hp
    Maximum speed - 228 km/h
    Cruising speed - 189 km/h
    Max speed: 136mph / 219km/h
    Service ceiling: 23,524ft / 7,170m
    Range: 435 miles / 700km
    Crew - 3
    Armament: - 2 7.62-mm machine-guns ShKAS
    Bombs - 500 kg

    References:
    VAR. Aviation WWII.Bombers
    Unreal Aircraft - Weird Wings - Kalinin K-12

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  20. SaltyShellback

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    Here is some interesting information about K. A. Kalinin.
    The crash of K-7 was neither forgotten nor forgiven, and in 1938 Konstantin Kalinin was arrested, accused of espionage and sabotage, and executed by NKVD reportedly after the crash of the K-12 in which 4 people were killed, (The Great Purge of 1934-1939, largest part during '37-'39). There were charges of sabatoge and treason against him and Yosef Neman. Interestingly, Neman was already in prison at this time in which both aircraft designers were forced to continue working on designs they never saw completed or flown. There seems to be conflicting data on whether Kalinin was shot or died of injuries from being tortured in 1938. Information seems to be sketchy at best after the K-12 was shown at the Tushino Air Parade in 1937. In fact on any Soviet aircraft manufacturer sites all information about him or the K-12 stops, abruptly. Supposedly Tupelov may have had a hand in the demise of his career and aircraft company.

    Anyway here is the next aircraft.

    Take care,
    Salty
     

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