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  1. Takao

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    You are correct, sh eis the French battleship Lorraine.

    And the turn is now yours.
     
  2. TiredOldSoldier

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    View attachment 13521

    AFAIK she holds the unenviable record of having been sunk four times (by 3 different enemies) during WW2.
     

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  3. Takao

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    If the ship is the Italian light cruiser Taranto(ex-SMS Strassburg), I believe she was only sunk three times, not four.

    Scuttled in September, 1943 & refloated.
    Bombed & sunk in October, 1943, and refloated.
    Bombed & sunk in September, 1944.
    Scrapped postwar.
     
  4. TiredOldSoldier

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    She is Taranto as but her wreck was found in spring 1945 sunk as an obstruction in the western entrance of La Spezia harbour she must have been refloated by the Germans (for the third time) from where she was sunk in 1944 and scuttled again.
     
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    killership
     
  6. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Ace

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    As somebody is attempting to resurrect the name that plane I'm attepting to resurect this one that is much closer to my main interest hoping to give the "sea dogs" a bit of a diversion from their attempts at impersonating Yamamoto.

    This picure nearly convinced me lattice masts actually worked, IMO they're still one of the ugliest things to ever go to sea.
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  7. Carronade

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    Kilkis or Lemnos sp?, former USS Idaho and Mississippi, the last American pre-dreadnoughts, sold to the Greeks in 1914, both sunk in shallow water at Salamis by the Luftwaffe in 1941. Apparently in the process of being scrapped, both main turrets and one of the 8" on this side have been removed.

    These were an unfortunate attempt at an "economy" battleship, about 3000 tons smaller than the Connecticut/Louisiana class, distinguished visibly by their raised forecastle. They were about a knot slower, which hampered operations with the rest of the US battle line but was not an issue in Greek service.

    The US Navy about that time was running out of state names, which were used for battleships and the "Big Ten" armored cruisers. Idaho and Mississippi were promptly recycled for two new dreadnoughts, which were usually built in pairs, but the proceeds of the sale allowed for a third ship in the class, named for the newly admitted state of New Mexico.

    btw, TOS, what exactly is your avatar?
     
  8. Marmat

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    ... US pre-Dreadnought; Kilkis or Lemnos?



    Ooops! Too late!
     
  9. Takao

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    Is usually identified as the Lemnos.
    1.) most of the armament is missing.
    2.) Single black band on the for funnel.
    3.) Askance boat cranes.
     
  10. TiredOldSoldier

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    She is Lenmos being scrapped in Summer 1941, found that the mast look pretty intact despite the beating she got pretty amazing.
    For the curious my avatar is culqualber, one of two "tanks" built by the Italians in East Africa by adding makeshift armour made of welded together leaf spring elements from broken down trucks an a couple of MGs on top of a Holt tractor.
     
  11. Carronade

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    I believe that makes it my turn?

    [​IMG]

    p.s. I'm sorry, did I jump the gun here?
     
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    You really should rename the picture you are using as it mentions both the name of the vessel and date of the picture...
     
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    oops...... but thanks. Not much of a computer whiz....
     
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    Easy mistake to make. I wouldn't have spotted it if I had been able to blow up the picture by clicking but that didn't work for some reason so I did the "mouse over" bit and checked the bottom of the page to see if it would explain why it wasn't expanding ...
     
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    Now I'm in a quandary, she looks like a small cruiser but I need a better resolution to be able to identify her, but now I know doing it would spoil the fun revealing the name, life is full of hard choices:D
    EDIT: IJN Kitakami in her Kaiten carrier guise?
     
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    That's it, ran across it while looking up stuff for the faux-Japanese thread.

    My apologies again for my mixup.
     
  17. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Don't give it another thought. I've done the same thing.

    Of course, I still had a good snicker at your expense.
     
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    Couldn't find a picture of her in that guise but while looking up IJN cruisers came up with a side drawing that matched, apparently the crane was "recycled" from Chitose.

    Not a great quality picture but ... interesting
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  19. Carronade

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    British V&W class destroyer. There were several subgroups which a real expert might be able to specify further. This ship has a taller, slimmer forward funnel, indicating that she had one boiler in her forward fire room and two in the aft. Others had the reverse arrangement and a more diminuitive aft funnel. Either way all boilers were forward of the engines, the unit system was not incorporated in British destroyers until the Weapon class which missed the war.

    The V&Ws were WWI vintage, but 58 of them still served in WWII, most converted to escorts: 15 prewar AA conversions with two twin 4", 32 wartime AS, of which the long-range variant had one boiler removed to provide additional fuel storage.
     
  20. Marmat

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    ... Carronade's post, according to its pennant # this ship is HMS WATCHMAN (D 26)

    Admiralty W-Class destroyers ordered from John Brown of Clyde bank under the 1916-17 Programme in the 10th Order on 9 December 1916. The ship was laid down on 17th January 1917 and launched on 2 December 1917. She was the 1st RN warships to carry the name. After completion on 26th January 1918 she served in the Grand Fleet. This ship was deployed in the Baltic during 1919 and was in action against Russian warships. In 1921 she was in the 1st Destroyer Flotilla and later placed in Reserve. Brought forward for service in 1939 the ship was deployed at Gibraltar for contraband control and convoy defence duty. Following a successful WARSHIP WEEK National Savings campaign during November 1941 she was adopted by the civil community of Erlerley Hill then part of Staffordshire.
    B a t t l e H o n o u r s
    ATLANTIC 1940-41 - NORMANDY 1944 - ARCTIC 1944 - ENGLISH CHANNEL 1944-45 H e r a l d i c D a t a Badge: On a Field Black, a Lanthorn Gold, with panes Red. M o t t o Securitas: ' Safety '

    From: NAVAL-HISTORY.NET 1998-2012

     

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