Nazi Ideology

"The Horrifying Roots of Nazi Eugenics" by Edwin Black for one. I'll keep looking.

 

"Hitler's Debt to America"

"5 of Hitler's Ideas that You Didn't Know Came From America"

 

Life is not white or black, but the shades of gray in the shadows.

 

Thank you. I will have a look.

 

Yup. Some people on this forum just immediately write off what doesn't fit their hero narrative or if something is a little "darker" than described in history. History is written by the victors.

 

Certainly. Without question.

 

The sterilization programs practiced in the US, is and was indeed, applicable. The connections are there between the US and Germany's quest for racially "pure blood". The Rockefeller connection is forward in my mind.

However, the T-4 euthanasia program practiced under National Socialist Germany is, IMHO, not substantial enough to compare.

 

I agree. It's not all hand and hand. In the early 20th century 27 states had Eugenics polices and plans active. The T-4 is a different animal.

 

It is scary that almost half the country, notably in the West, applied such practices.

Not that I am making some ground breaking statement here, but the deep seeded racism is clearly evident. The basis for sterlization.

 

Actually, it's a little more complex than that.

When you start linking to crap sites invoking Illuminati, it's not the anti-"hero narrative" that causes the teeth to grind.

When you post references to made up Churchill quotes from Islamofascists, it isn't the luminescence of history (or lack thereof) that causes the skin to crawl.

When you categorically define individuals and assign motives to them that the historic record does not support, then it isn't the victors writing the history is it?



Again and again; Original source material.

Not crackpot illuminati conspiracy sites.

Conjecture is not History.

Eugenics was definitely a part of the historic record of the West. Thank goodness that madness was quickly put to rest.

 

You are right. But there were strong advocates arguing for similar policies. However, this was not unique to the Anglo-Saxon world (although the US and UK had very public advocates). This was an idea of the time, peculating from Darwin, Nietzsche, and others, seeking answers and justification for European global dominance, born from pseudo-science and limited understandings of the nature of man as well as incomplete comprehension of those works (and their limitations). As such it can't really be said that the idea was imported to Germany from the US ; instead the seeds festooned across the Western world, grabbing inspiration from many writers, snowballing as it went. These authors were scientists, biologists, philosophers, clergy, politicians, indeed, all sorts, from a wide variety of nations.

 

One of those Churchill quotes was legitimate, I researched in. It had to do with it didn't matter who was in charger of Germany, Hitler or a Jesuit priest. Jim Marrs also cited that.

 

Now you are just trolling.

Just to put everyone on equal footing...

Jim Marrs has written books asserting the existence of government conspiracies regarding aliens, 9/11, telepathy, and secret societies.

Must be true then....


The quote by Churchill is unequivocally, a falsehood.

 

Do any of these actually make a strong case for America being the source of Hitler's ideas?

Especially when one considers how wide spread they were in the 19th and early 20th century ascribing them to one country with a language foreign to the individual seems a bit much when the domestic literature would also have been prevalent.

 

It's an interesting theory, but I agree, it lacks some depth

 

I'm not trolling, I believe the government would lie and cover things up to protect their power. Politics is power, nothing more.

 

Those who wouldn't keep an open mind and insult the skeptic are the trolls themselves.

 

There's a substantial difference between someone having an open mind, willing to examine new facts, as well as information with critical facilities intact, and someone mindlessly swallowing drivel, because it suites whatever pet theory is housed in the gaping vacuous space above their shoulders.

Jim Marrs, Erich von Däniken and their ilk are only interested in skimming money from the gullible.

 

What is the lie they are covering up exactly?