A couple of months ago, I mentioned to you all that I was dropped from a fraternity and I mentioned that I might try to go back next semester. It took me a little while for me to think this over, but I have made a decision that I am never ever going to go back there or ever go Greek again. The Christian organization that I joined after I was dropped has allowed me to realize that I don't need the fraternity anymore because there are other and better people here at WKU who are always so kind and accepting. I also realize that if I tried to join again next semester those 8 people who voted me out are still going to be there and always ready to jump on me again and I don't want to fall to that. It feels really good to say that I have moved on! However despite how I feel about the fraternity there are still a number of people in the fraternity that I respect a lot still and have been able to maintain good friendships with. Cheers , Dave
For some it is necessary as a way of fitting in. This can be applied especially with big schools. For some it is an access to parties, although that's not how everyone sees it. Others, especially myself were drawn to it because of the common link between everyone because of a sense of "brotherhood." So for some, it's a good way to fit in, and that's one of the other things that drew me to it. However as I found out with the Christian organization that I joined, I found out that there are other ways to fit in a school like WKU and that's why some people don't go Greek. But in lots of cases from what I have heard many find it as a way to fit in.
The fraternities (and sororities) do seam to very considerably as well. Some don't seam to have much of a focus, others focus on social life (and some specialize in parties) others have different focuses. For instance after taking one class I became aware that at least one fraternity basically kept a book on the various profs including how they graded, what their tests were like, etc. There's at least one that for engineers for instance. Some can also be viewed as being useful for their post graduation connections.
CAC, My wife was in a sorority (Alpha Gam) when she was college age and my eldest daughter is in one (ADPi) at another university. My daughter's is the first sorority in the US, although the first chapter was at a different school. A large number of our friends and relatives were and are involved in Greek organizations, so I guess you could say I see them in a somewhat favorable light. There is the social aspect, which is quite prominent. My daughter is home from school for Christmas but she had an event, or two, or three nearly every week that required her presence these past few months. She also had a required number of hours each week that she had to appear at the library to study for her classes. After her GPA was high enough for this semester, that requirement has been dropped. If she does poorly next semester, that requirement would be reinstated. We received a copy of the code of ethics she had to sign. There were a great many rules she has to abide by when in the public eye dealing with behavior, such as drinking to excess, dancing on tables and PDAs. There were also rules concerning apparel. Essentially, she can't go naked in public and has to "dress for the occasion." The are not supposed to show up in raggedy blue jeans when a more formal dress is expected. Also, she cannot be in the men's dorms after certain hours and the like. When she was a pledge, she could not go to a frat house without an escort of one of the older sisters. But, like you mentioned, the different organizations vary. My wife keeps up with her sisters from the sorority 30 years later (though not as much as some) and the organizations have been helpful for friends and in professional circles, securing jobs, assistance moving to other cities and the like.
Thanks guys...i have a clearer picture...Here i suppose its the whole University, one can wear the colours or tie of a certain University and could get preferential treatment in later life (old boys club), but even thats dieing... Im a sporto who excells in science...where would i go?
I had the opportunity to arrest quite a few fraternity types during my stint on the road. Nice bunch of fellows. Biggest bunch of anal cavities you'd ever want to meet in the wee hours on side of the road, but well mannered and dressed to the nines at the arraingment. And their folks were always "johnny on the spot" to arrive at the jail to post bail. Of course next to none of the cases against frat boys ever made it onto the docket at the court house, so I guess that's another plus in pledging a frat.
I did not see the need to join any club or frat at university but had a number of good friends and flatmates. Partied, swotted when necessary, starved often but got a first class degree at the end. I believe in being your own man/woman - or both if the urge takes you!
After a nice long winter break and discovering the magic of coffee and Phil Collins, I will be heading back down to college tomorrow. I will continue to be active in posting, but studying and getting caught up on school work is always important. Also there is a good chance I will be getting a job working as a desk clerk in one of the dorms this semester! PS: If there are any updates about Mr. Geiser, I will make sure to post them in the thread and keep you all updated Cheers to All , Dave
Another thing to keep in mind is that future employers keep an eye on social media, so consider what you post. I was going to say, 'But you probably already know that' but my jaw drops when I see some of the things younger people I know who I always thought were media savvy share with the world. Keep smiling, enjoy yourself but study hard.
Yep...took 4 years for high school because i liked it so much. Time of my life...Now, Those Days Are Gone- Fishbone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuvb3kmaslg