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Old Hickory Recon, Memories of the 30th Infantry Division 1943-1945 - Marion M. Sanford

Discussion in 'Honor, Service and Valor' started by Old Hickory, Apr 17, 2009.

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  1. LRusso216

    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    What a treasure, Jeff. Even though Capt. Hume's portion is brief, the fact that it was recorded at all is amazing. I hope Mr. Marion enjoys listening to it.
     
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    Thanks, Lou. I plan on converting it to a "video" and upload it to YouTube.
     
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    I can't wait. I'll look forward to it.
     
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    Thanks Jeff, I will have a look later today
     
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    Thanks Jeff, amazing recording !
     
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    Today, I also found the grave of a man whom Mr. Marion referred to as "The finest soldier I've ever known," SSgt Francis Scott, killed in action on 2 Sep 1944, southeast of Tournai, Belgium. He is buried in a church cemetery in Georgia, a few south of the Atlanta airport. I have contacted the church, to enquire if they can help me find any of his relatives. I left a message and hope they will call me back.
     
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    Great interview, Jeff. Thanks for posting it. I also wish you the best in contacting SSgt. Scott's family.
     
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    Yesterday, I hit paydirt.
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    As I mentioned above, I found the grave of Sgt. Francis (Scotty) Scott in a church cemetery south of Atlanta, Georgia. Sgt. Scott was killed in action 2 September, 1944 near Tournai Belgium. Mr. Marion considered him to be the finest soldier he ever knew.
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    After a long series of phone calls and conversations spanning the last several weeks, I was directed yesterday to call a man who might be able to help me find some of Sgt. Scott's relatives. When the contact answered the phone, I explained what I was seeking and provided some background on the book that I had written. When I finally got around to mentioning Sgt. Scott's name, the man replied to me that he was Sgt. Scott's son!
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    We talked long as I could (during my lunch hour) and I will be talking to him more. Mr. Marion was so excited when I told him the news and we are already planning a trip to meet Mr. Scott face to face.
     
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    Keep us informed, Jeff. The face to face meeting sounds intriguing. Hope it turns out well for all.
     
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    Blessings keep piling in on us.

    I received an email from a friend in Europe who has been talking to the son of a man who served with the 30th Recon. I called and talked to the son and he is seeing about setting up a time for his father to talk to Mr. Marion. The man was also one of the original members of the troop and Mr. Marion remembers him, although he did not know him very well.

    Apparently the soldier was directly involved in the battle in Tournai where Sgt. Scott (mentioned above) was killed. I've only been able to get second-hand accounts of that fight and it will be good to hear the memories of someone who was there. I know Sgt. Scott's son will be thankful, also.

    Keep your fingers crossed that I can get all it all worked out.
     
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    This keeps getting more and more interesting! I can only imagine Mr. Sanford's excitement at the opportunity to talk with Sgt. Scott's son. Then making the connection with a veteran who was at the battle is amazing. I look forward to further updates from you, Jeff.
     
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    I received the two attached photos today from a friend in Europe.

    The photos were made in Fains, France on 23 August, 1944 and it shows members of the 30th Recon Troop in the drive across France. Fains is 18m/26km from Evreux.

    There are three US soldiers visible in photo 1 and four are visible in photo 2 on and around two jeeps.

    The soldier not wearing his helmet is Private Richard Lyczynski. The soldier leaning on the .30 MG with his head tipped back is Private Charles Banfield. The third man in that photo has not been identified, nor has the fourth soldier visible in the second photo.

    Pvt. Lyczynski was killed by a sniper a few minutes after these photos were taken.

    He is buried in Normandy American Cemetery.
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    Very poignant photos knowing what happened a few minutes later.

    RIP, Pvt. Lyczynski. :S!
     
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    hello,I am new to this forum.I just found it and was elated to find a living vet who served with my dad in the 30 th recon. M dad was G.H.Brewer Jr . He would probably have been called Jr. He was a truck driver He was a small man dark hair and maybe a mustache. What little dad ever said about the war matches all the places of training and the deployment on the rough sea where dad said he was sick for 15 days. I was not sure just what day he went in on Normandy,so the 10th sounds good. I still have a piece of light tissue like paper of the Christmas dinner with all the names and platoon breakdown rank the menu and prayer,Marion Sanford is on the Tech. list. Dad got a copy of the book Workhorse of the western front 30th Infantry Division by Robert L Hewett printed a couple years after the war ended. It is a must have for anyone interested in the Old Hickory. I would love to know if Mr Sanford remembers my dad,Dad died of cancer in 2003. My only brother James died 6months prior to dad. James was a Viet Nam era vet.I am retired ArmyNational Guard . My mother is still living and has a very sharp memory of all the information she had. I guess this long winded enough for the first post. Thanks for the time and much effort invested in this forum. Thanks to Mr Sanford for his sacrifice and much appreciated service.
     
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    Lucky, would you like to talk to him? He is a very personable man and likes to talk to old members of the recon and their family.

    In the meanwhile, I'll ask him about your father.

    edit: I sent you a private message. Look in the upper right of the page and click on the red "envelope" to see it.
     
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    A very neat and inspirational account. I hope to see more memoirs like this. There are so many questions to ask one rarely knows where to start. Thank you for sharing.
     
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    I thoroughly enjoyed reading all the threads in this topic. Some things caught my eye regarding unit insignia and their colors. The 30th Infantry Division, composed of units from Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia had many variations of the octagonal crest. However colors created some consistency: White was the 59th Inf Brigade, and light blue was the 60th Inf Brigade with a variety of figures denoting which state National Guard they represented. For instance: Hogs head for Georgia, hornets nest for North Carolina, Pine tree with stars for Tennessee, and a Palmetto for South Carolina. Individual Regiments kept their own unit crest or pedigree (e.g. 118th Inf, 119th Inf or the 120th Inf regiments). The Division Artillery was obviously red, commanded by a Brigadier General. Lots of artillery. Aviation section or company was Blue and Orange, the chemical company was blue and yellow, Quartermaster/motorcycle was a pink/khaki, ordnance was red/scarlet and yellow, dark blue was for the Tank Company, MP was green, the signal company was white and yellow, and all yellow was the reconnaissance company or troop representing the cavalry. The early unit crest colors stem from only three colors used since the Civil War: red, white, and blue respectively meaning 1st, 2nd and 3rd division or brigade. This has been lost over the decades and it's too bad. The national guard divisions have all but given up their unique crests like you display as your avatar representing the 30th Infantry Division reconnaissance company. Bye gone eras and so many changes. There are threads of tradition still represented by those unit crests if nothing seems to be traditional or reminiscent of Army heritage any longer. The national guard units, whether infantry or coastal artillery represented the bulk of military manpower that carried us through the war. They were ready and were, as often, the first into battle like Mr Sanford.
     
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    Slipdigit I apologize for not calling last evening. I did talk a few minutes to Marion, what a gentleman to have so sharp memory at 93 wow.It hurts to face the fact that dad and marion lived in Alabama and we never got them together before dad died. I am looking forward to meeting him and reading the book. Dads insignia has white background. I will call this veningThanks
     
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    I glad you were able to talk to him.

    His recollections were close on the mark. I have the After Action Reports for the 30CRT and verified the dates he gave when we recorded his memories. He was always very close to the date on the old army documents, usually no more than a day or two off, if that.

    I look forward to your call.
     

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