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Patton wanted to take on the Soviets 1945

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by yan taylor, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. Sloniksp

    Sloniksp Ставка

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    This pretty much sums it up...

    Sorry there mate but unfortunately ive seems my share of these "Soviets were the real bad the guys not those poor Nazis" posts, so im not going to tread this water.


    What an unfortunate point of view.
     
  2. belasar

    belasar Court Jester

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    Stalin was many things, most of them not very nice, but he and the USSR was not an imeadiate threat to the west and the war with Japan still had to be won. A democracy must have a good, clear reason before sending its troops into a life or death struggle, otherwise its people will demand the return of its troops. The USSR/communist bloc caused the west a great deal of grief over the next 50 years but if you look at the total number of combat deaths and loss of property to the west during the cold war and compare it to the combat losses and devastation caused by a drive to put the USSR forces back to their 1939 borders, it seems a no brain'er to me.
     
  3. rkline56

    rkline56 USS Oklahoma City CG5

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    Point taken. You are right.
     
  4. CPL Punishment

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    I couldn't think of a more certain way to fatally taint the sacrifice of so much American blood and treasure and simultaneousness validate the depredations of Hitler than to team up with the Wehrmacht against Stalin. Stalin was an evil tyrant, I don't believe anyone can honestly dispute that. However the people who would pay the price in blood in a war to liberate the Poles were not our enemies.

    The Poles deserved liberation, no nation in Europe has suffered more blamelessly than they. Yet this is the real world. Sometimes we don't get what we deserve, thank God.

    They had to wait forty years but the Poles got their nation back, and they did it themselves. It wasn't handed to them by an American general riding by on his tank, and therefore the savor is all the more sweet.
     
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  5. lwd

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    You'd have to present more than an unsupported opinion to convince me of that. It would I'll admit have meant that there were a lot more hungry civilians in Europe but the US had a pretty well developed log system at the time and the ability to build more pretty quickly. It could not have been supported politically however. Just about everyone was more interested in peace at that point than in contimued confrontation.
    That's not at all clear. Stalin simply wasn't as inclinded as Hitler to risk everything on a throw of the dice. The Soviets weren't in particularly good shape at that point either.
     

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