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Pre-Pearl Harbor Japanese shipping to Vichy France

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  1. lwd

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    There was a whole lot more than just the Phillipines and as you acknowledge here it was a lot more than just Yamamoto. If it was just the Phillippines Japan had only to wait a few years and the US wouldn't be there anymore. Certainly they were part of the overall picture but a key point? Hardly.
     
  2. Takao

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    ????

    Japan war plans had been looking at invading the Philippines for roughly three decades. When the subject of invading the Philippines first entered into Japanese war plans...Isoroku Yamamoto wasn't Isoroku Yamamoto, he was Isoroku Takano.
     
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    I said Yamamoto, but I did mean the Japanese military
     
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    The Japanese had been developing invasion plans for the Philippines since 1908...I still have not been able to fathom a point that you are trying to make.
     
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    it wa in response to the idea that the Japanese could have tried ignoring the Americans
     
  6. Takao

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    Just noticed this...

    That would depend on the interpretation used for the "Western Hemisphere". Going by the strict interpretation of the Prime Meridian, Iceland falls into the Western Hemisphere, as would part of England and Africa. Going by looser interpretations of period maps...Greenland, Iceland, and the rest are not always included.
     
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    The prohibition in (e) is the historical reason the Roosevelt administration sent US Marines to Iceland instead of US Army troops.

    "At the same time, the War Plans Division raised inquiry concerning the effect of the legal restrictions that prohibited the National Guard, members of the Reserve, and men drafted under the Selective Service Act from serving outside the Western Hemisphere and which limited their terms of military service to a period of twelve months. For purposes of naval defense the President had placed the Atlantic frontier of the western world, quite arbitrarily, along the 26th meridian, which excluded the whole of Iceland."

    Source: U.S. Army Center for Military History website.
     
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    Thanks! I'd forgotten about that.
     
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    No problem, you've given me so much valuable information over time I'll never be able to pay you back!
     

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