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Discussion in 'Eastern Europe October 1939 to February 1943' started by Kai-Petri, Dec 16, 2002.

  1. Kai-Petri

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    And one more blitzkrieg....check the ones above as well...
     
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    Hello Kai-Petri,

    Well at least they had horses. I remember a German WW2 vet, swearing at us upon our question in regards to the horses dragging his Pak 75, and he answered; Horses? We were the dam horses, for f******* 2 years we had to drag that bastard through Russia. :D

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    Closer then Napoleon you should give credit ;)
     
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    Some propaganda pics by the Soviets to the Finns

    1. Surrender or...join them!

    2. " When there´s not enough men for the front in Germany, then, Sir, drink Finnish blood!
    ( Mannerheim serving Hitler the Finnish blood)
     
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    From the Robin Cross book Kursk:

    "Up to the summer of 1943 Russian infantry formations were expected to manage on their initial ammunition issue ( boekompletky )which lasted about ten days. Little or no thought was given to further supply as it was Red Army practice to let these formations fight themselves into the ground before rebuilding them again from scratch.Thus in a high-intensity battle it was calculated that infantry formations would not last beyond their initial allocation of ammunition."

    Oops!
     
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    Did not realize there were Fockes also in Turku area for awhile, SW of Finland:

    Fighters at Turku

    On 19.6.1944 twelve Focke-Wulf FW 190A fighters of 1. Staffel / Jadgeschwader 54 (1./JG 54) arrived in Turku to protect German naval forces (including heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen) on the northern Baltic Sea. Nachtjagd-Leitschiff Togo was again in duty providing temporary radar cover. Staffel left Finland in mid-July 1944.

    FMP - Luftflotte 1 in Central and Southern Finland 1941 - 1944
     
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    Hello Kai-Petri,

    I found the info on the Nachtjagd - Kommando Helsinki-Malmi, very interesting, never heard of this enterprise, - should be very interesting to Erich - just in case he wouldn't know about it.

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    Helsingin Sanomat - International Edition - Home

    The bigger weird thing to me was that the Finnish troops did not attack Leningrad, did not bomb and use artillery against Leningrad, did not cut the Murmansk railway for good, did not send more communists/Jews to camps....
     
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    Some Finnish soldiers...captured tank...dead enemy...mg man...
     
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    From Armageddon: The Battle for Germany, 1944-1945(book) by Max Hastings:

    in july 17 ,1944 57,000 german pows were marched in moscow, the kids of moscow were laughing at the german pows and throwing stones on them,one girl who was 6 years old and watched this accident after a long period of russian propaganda commited that she was suprised that the german troops had human faces, she expected beasts.
    one western journalist who was there overheard an old russian woman saying:"Just like our boys... they(german pows) were "pushed" to this war."(translated from hebrew).
     
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    More pics from the front....
     
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    And one "horror" pic....war humour....check the pics above as well...
     
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    Yes I heard women were used as snipers because they were more patient and only very skilled women were put in fighters. The others were obselete bi-planes with one reward machine gun usually reconnaisance
     
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    German Generals killed by snipers in WW2:

    General Franz Scheidies, 61st Infantry division, on April 7, 1942

    General Walther von Hünersdorff, 6th Panzer division, July 14 1943

    General Herman Kress , 4th Mountain division, August 11 1943
     
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    Some German Ostfront pics...in one pic probably Rumanian soldiers as well(?).
     
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    Front,front,front...
     
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    Hungary was the only country to send organised troops to Finland. Hungary had paid careful attention to the selection of men. All the applicants had to meet the selection committee in person. They had to be young and unmarried. They had to have their military service completed and they should not have any criminal record. Imre Kemeri Nagy, the battalion commander, was an interesting exception to these rules. His past was somewhat shady.

    After the training period the voluntary battalion headed for Finland on the 7th of February in 1940. A group pretending to be skiing tourists travelled first to France via Yugoslavia and Italy. Then they continued their journey to Great Britain and further to Norway. From Norway they travelled through Sweden to northern Finland, and eventually to their final destination in southern Finland. They arrived at the Finnish training centre in Lapua on the 2nd of March.

    According to reports from the armed forces headquarters, the leaders of the Finnish armed forces were very satisfied with the trained and disciplined Hungarian battalion. Even its equipment was better than usual.

    Finn Nagykövetség, Budapest: Aktuális: Híreink
     
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    The memorial medal given to widows of soldiers who died during the war for Finland.
     
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    Max-Helmut Osterman

    It was in the aerial combats with the Red Air Force on the Leningrad front that Ostermann developed into one of the most outstanding aces of the Luftwaffe. Flown by an experienced pilot, the extremely maneuverable Soviet I-15 and I-16 fighters could be very dangerous in dogfights. The main German fighter tactic against such aircraft was a swift attack from above, using the superior speed of the Messerschmitt 109. But Ostermann succeeded by doing what very few German pilots dared to, by staying in flight with the Russian pilots - and out-turn them. Until spring 1942 he had shot down 40 Soviet aircraft, and on May 12, 1942 became the seventh pilot in World War II to exceed 100 kills.

    On August 9, 1942, Ostermann - meanwhile promoted to Oberleutnant and in command of 7./JG 54 - finally met his match in a dogfight with Soviet fighter pilots in the vicinity of Amossovo. Ostermann died in the cockpit of his burning Messerschmitt 109, at the age of 24.
     
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    Winter and front pics...
     

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