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  1. wm.

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    Although many Muslims are trying to modernize both their countries and their faith (and this require lots of personal courage, as the video Saudi Arabia Uncovered shows) there are some structural, very hard to overcome problems, like here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NXtIUv5i2w
     
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    Yes, I agree. David Wood is a problem we need to overcome. "Bashing Muslims for Fun and Profit", isn't that the business he runs?
     
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    I don't know that, but I don't think the verses he mentions are going to disappear because of that.
     
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    Petition for J.K. Rowling to take in muslim refugees in her 18 spare bedrooms
    J.K. Rowling has often announced her solidarity with Middle-Eastern refugees on twitter. She is well-known advocate of open borders and often stated, that Europe has the duty to give every single one of these refugees from all over the middle east [...]

    The refugee crisis will require 250000 homes to be built every year in her homeland Britain. Helping refugees in Europe will cost 10 times as much as helping them in neighbouring countries would. Donations by the superrich, even in the millions, are a drop in the ocean, as the taxpayer will have to pay billions for the following decades. Elites, that echo the MSM narrative, defending open borders, are hypocrites that will never share the outlook of the working class, which has to encounter refugees every day. So let's bring one of the loudest virtue-signaling apologists of globalism back to reality and give her some new roommates.

    We demand that J.K. Rowling grants no less than 18 refugees shelter in her mansions for at least 8 years. She rejects safe immigration, which is why we also demand, that there will be no additional vetting process for these refugees. Her virtue-signaling stems from ignorance, and the 100% effective cure of it will be this drastic change of perspective. To make this group of refugees representative of the situation Europe, we also demand that the group consists of 14 men and 4 women, since over 75% of the millions of refugees are male.
     
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    It seems to be a 501(c)(3), nonprofit organization.
    That man is a former atheist, and a former criminal who saw the light and has become a successful Christian apologist.
    Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    Unfortunately, the rich will be the rich, whether they are liberal or conservative.

    You would be surprised how quickly party lines disappear when Wal-Mart wants to put a SuperStore right next to their $500,000+ dollar homes.


    I must have missed the part where Clooney twisted Switzerland's arm to close the Swiss border.

    Nor, has he been giving succor to these refugees at his spacious multi-million dollar home...As I said, the rich will be the rich no matter what their political affiliation.
     
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    "You would be surprised how quickly party lines disappear when Wal-Mart wants to put a SuperStore right next to their $500,000+ dollar homes."
    This is where walls (fences) come in handy.
    Freedom, baby.
    Don't Fence Me In- Roy Rogers
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLoYFvbR0XY
     
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    Will liberal churches accept refugees? No.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9zIzIePjpo
     
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    Le Pen sparks controversy by refusing to wear veil in Lebanon
    FRANCE’S FAR-RIGHT PRESIDENTIAL candidate Marine Le Pen sparked controversy today during her brief visit to Lebanon when she refused to wear a veil to meet the country’s top Sunni Muslim cleric.
    On her last day in the small Mediterranean country, Le Pen arrived at Sheikh Abdellatif Deryan’s office in Beirut and was offered a white shawl to cover her blonde hair.
    The National Front candidate promptly refused and made a brief statement to journalists before leaving.
    “The highest Sunni authority in the world had not had this requirement, so I have no reason to,” Le Pen said, referring to her 2015 visit to Al-Azhar, the prestigious Egyptian institution of Sunni Islamic learning.



    Described as more democratic and republican than her nationalist father, Le Pen has led a movement of "de-demonization of the Front National" to detoxify it and soften its image, based on renovated positions and renewed teams, also expelling controversial members accused of racism, antisemitism, or pétainism. She finally expelled her father from the party on 20 August 2015 after new controversial statements.
    She has also relaxed some political positions of the party, advocating for civil unions for same-sex couples instead of her party's previous opposition to legal recognition of same-sex partnerships, accepting unconditional abortion and withdrawing the death penalty from her platform.

    Le Pen was ranked among the most influential people in 2011 and 2015 by the Time 100. In 2016, she was ranked as second-most influential MEP in the European Parliament by Politico, just behind the President of the European Parliament Martin Schulz.
     
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    Unfortunately, walls or fences do not increase the property value as much as having a Wal-Mart next door decreases said value.
     
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    A kinder, gentler, Nazi Party...
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-q7cdZf3Xk



    Unfortunately it's all paid content ($99 per year + free mug)...
     
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    Fascism in the US
    Hundreds of campuses encourage students to turn in fellow students for offensive speech
    at hundreds of campuses across the country, administrators encourage students to report one another, or their professors, for speech protected by the First Amendment, or even mere political disagreements. The so-called "Bias Response Teams" reviewing these (often anonymous) reports typically include police officers, student conduct administrators and public relations staff who scrutinize the speech of activists and academics.
    This sounds like the stuff of Orwell, although even he might have found the name "Bias Response Team" to be over-the-top.

    Over the past year, I surveyed more than 230 such reporting systems for the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education and asked dozens of schools for records about their Bias Response Teams. What I found is detailed in a new report describing how universities broadly define "bias" to include virtually any speech, protected or not, that subjectively offends anyone. On many campuses, administrators are called upon to referee whether speech is polite.

    The threat to expressive rights isn't confined to speech from the Left or the Right. Bias reporting systems are being used to report all kinds of speech.
     
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    Whoa, hold on there, 18 bedrooms x 6 persons per family = 108 refugees, minimum.
     
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    The problem is that that point doesn't relate to the reality of how Sharia Law is practiced in many countries. Indeed if it becomes "Law of the Land" like it is in much of the Mid East one has no choice but to accept that it applies to one at least while you are in said country. Furthermore as Islam envisions a world government under Islamic Law the ability to go somewhere else kind of evaporates in their end game. It's a different case if it's a matter of two sides in a civil case accepting the use of Sharia in solving their dispute.
     
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    I clearly stated that the Law 'as written in the Koran' is optional. You are now bringing Politics into it and if so then I point you to African Christian Countries that use a skewed reading of the 'Bible' (pick your book) to make Homosexuality a crime with an unofficial (no great effort wasted looking for the murderers ) 'death Penalty',

    Can I take it then that Christianity as a whole will carry the can for African Christian practise?
     
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    "Sharia Law does not apply to anyone who does not accept that it applies to them"

    What in holy hell are you talking about? A legal system isn't optional, you don't have the option not to follow Sharia if it is the law of the land. If you are convicted of a "crime" in Saudi Arabia and the punishment for is stoning, you cannot get out of the punishment by saying "I don't follow" your laws. How can someone possibly not recognize this? Your level of obscurantism is ridiculous and outright stupid.

    Neither do I. My comments has nothing to do with your ad-hominem attacks over supposed muslim-hating, or how you don't live in fear. I'd ask you to keep your comments on the single issue at hand, but clearly you are mentally unable to do so. I wonder if you can answer this point without bringing up other unrelated issues to muddy the waters.
     
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