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Tarantino's "Inglourious Basterds"

Discussion in 'WWII Films & TV' started by JeffinMNUSA, Aug 5, 2009.

  1. Milleniumgorilla

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    Actually I find the usual Hollywood depiction of German soldiers (as targets in feldgrau) much more annoying than such a western like story.
     
  2. Winston Churchill

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    I thought the opening scene was incredible. The tension that builds up, from seeing 'the jew hunters' convoy coming over the hill, the dialogue, the cinematography and the subtly of it all (until the pap hits the fan) was Tarantino at his best. A lot of people just imagine blood guts and gore when they think about Tarantino, but he has so much more in his proverbial locker than that.
     
  3. dead_celeb

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    THIS COMMENT CONTAINS A SPOILER WHICH YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ IF YOU HAVE YET TO SEE THE MOVIE.

    I'm not sure I would say I actually enjoyed this movie-'Enjoy' seems an inappropriate word to use for a film which seems to revel in so much extremely graphic and shockingly casual violence. But I definitely found it to be an INTERESTING movie-I've never seen anything quite like it.

    It occurs to me that Tarrantino is playing games with the audience. Violence as casual entertainment all the way through, with the 'good guys' killing and torturing the 'bad guys', and we are supposed to go along with this, its conventional morality and that's supposed to ok....but then, at the end, where Hitler is watching the Nazi propaganda movie, which seems to consist of nothing other than American soldiers being killed, and he is enjoying it, and laughing. Well, maybe that's a reflection of us as the audience and the movie we have been watching.

    And the orgy of violence that is the climax of the film...my goodness, I came out feeling like I had been punched in the face. Men, women and children trapped in a burning building and being shot down without mercy. Of course, this is what the Nazis did to the Jews. So to see the situation reversed feels troubling and triggers mixed emotions in me. I found it horrible to watch-actually quite disturbing. But then these are the Nazis, the bad guys, right?

    And these sort of movies, yeah, there's a plot to kill Hitler, but we know that never happened in real life, so it's not going to happen here, right? Wrong. Seeing Hitlers face be disintegrated by a machine gun is such a ludicrous act of violence it's almost cartoonish.

    This is not a war movie, it's a fantasy. It's a movie about movies as much as anything. It's a lot smarter than the trailers made it out to be. It gets inside your head, and then messes around in there. It requires maybe a bit more of an effort, a bit more thinking than your standard Hollywood fare. And I think that's why a lot of people don't seem to respond well to it. They are unable or unwilling to make that effort.
     
  4. Kai-Petri

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    Well, it was kinda interesting with lots of monologues and chatting the usual Tarantino way. Worth watching but considered it alot of over-acting and not really much war action like in the original one. Actually you cannot compare the two, I think.

    Enjoyed watching it but don´t think will be watching it again in a long time, as it did not give anything "solid" to me. The end was pretty childish but suited the theme of the film...
     
  5. cypert2

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    Mussolini, agree with you 100%. Thought it was a very good flick. Christoph Waltz, who played the jew hunter was especially good. Some folks on here don't like a movie unless it was made 20 or 30 years ago. And BTW, I'm no kid. I happen to be 55. :)
     
  6. STARMAN 352ND

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    I'll pick this up on DVD when it comes out on Dec 15 and see what i make of it.
    I have seen the orig movie years ago so it will be interesting to see how well the latest release was made.
     
  7. SicklyBug

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    Don't expect Tarantino's Basterds to be anything like the old Inglorious Bastards film, because it's not. I think Tarantino named his new film after the old film because in an extra on the old film's dvd release he mentions that he and his friends called any exploitation type ww2 film Inglorious Bastards.
     
  8. panzer kampf gruppen 6

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    stupid movie well it was a little funny but its more of a dark humor movie.;)
     
  9. brndirt1

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    Reservoir Dogs by Quentin Tarantino had as much to do with the "perfect crime" as this latest "shocking" offering has to do with WW2. Just a ruse to allow him to exploit his penchant for "blood and gore" in another era.

    The mis-spelling in the name is an obvious attempt to tie, but yet clear himself from copyright infringement from the more enjoyable 1978 Italian movie; Inglorious Bastards.

    I have been entertained by many of Tarantino’s films, including but not limited to Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs. I will approach this latest offering in the same vein; a slasher, blow ‘em away, fiction which I will only watch when it can be done for free.

    I wouldn’t pay a walk-in ticket for any of his work anymore. Just not that good or different from his other stuff. You see his name you get an idea of what he is going to offer up.
     
  10. SicklyBug

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    I enjoyed the film when I went to the theater to watch it. Christoph Waltz, who played Hans Landa in the film was outstanding. I plan on buying IB on bluray tomorrow when it hits stores. It's not historically accurate, but it sure is fun!
     
  11. 107thcav

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    Had higher hopes for the movie. Liked KIll Bill 1 and 2 also liked Reservoir Dogs did'nt like Inglourious Basterds it was a one timer.
     
  12. panzer kampf gruppen 6

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    This movie is 10 on the weirdo meter in stead of the Germans being brutal the Jews its the opposite Jews brutal to Germans (i mean sorry if i spoiled it) But he bonked the dude in a head with a base ball bat.I sure are guys did not do that in real life (i hope ) half of those German soldiers were as young as 12 in tell 20 pretty young.
     
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    Totally agreed, its stupidity in movies like these that have school teachers referring to the German forces as a whole as simply "The Nazis". Its not fair that Hollywood insults soldiers who have no means to stick up for themselves. In fact it is quite disgraceful really, comedy or not.
     
  14. 1986CamaroZ28

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    Oh please, you guys are taking this far too seriously. Yes the Germans were innocent and they get portrayed bad blah blah blah but this is just a dramatized movie. The acting is good, the scenes are awesome, and the ending is cool, who wouldn't want to see gobbels n' hitler torn apart by bullets. The germans weren't even portrayed as nazis, the jews were the more violent ones. And the violence atleast looks realistic, but maybe you guys are just use to your 1950 terrible sound effects and acting with clean shaven faces and one man dies clutching his chest saying some stupid epic thing with his last breath while americans charge over a hill and slaughter dozens of enemy soldiers while staying clean and somehow getting a kiss from a girl.
     
  15. C.Evans

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    Have to agree with you on that-it was a stupid remake from an original that was about as stupid. No I have not and will not see it.
     
  16. C.Evans

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    Well said. tarantino f____d this one up which was hard to do since the original was already a piece of garbage to begin with.
     
  17. C.Evans

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    Danke. Also, movies like this one easily takes hollywoodland back in time at least 50 years.
     
  18. 1986CamaroZ28

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    You guys are judging a movie you haven't seen. The commercial looks like it bashes on all germans. The actual movie shows the opposite. A french girl and black man burn and kill hundreds of old men, women, and children. Angry Jewish Americans beat young, scared germans to death with a baseball bat. A german has sympathy even for a spy, and refuses to shoot her untill she kills him. He also has a little boy who he misses, making him look more humane. The guy called the "jew hunter" is insanely smart, crafty, witting, and entertaining. Americans are the ones that scalp the germans. The german war hero hates war, and just wants to settle down with a nice french girl, and he's very chivalrous about it. But she acts like a bijsh, and keeps blowing him off, and tries to kill the poor fellow. This movie is seriously not anti-german, they kill a lot of them but they don't feel like the enemy. You guys should seriously actaully watch the movie before you start ranting on about how it doesn't glorify german soldiers and creates a stereotype. It's a great film that's engaging and entertaining, better than those pathetic fake 1950s war films.
     
  19. Mehar

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    The trailers and the stigma associated with them are more than enough to hurt the names of millions who fought in the war. Not very many people will see the movie in the grand scheme of things but many more will see the trailers for it and "absorb" the message it preaches.
     
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    I have seen it, sure the action was nice but the basis of the movie was foolish. One thing I noted was that one soldier they had left alive, he looked to me as if he could have been 16, they said to him "Now your a Nazi, and heres something that will help you never forget it"..... is that ability to judge something that should be passed on to the hordes of 12 year olds that have watched this movie?

    Also in a manner of disgustingly intended irony, we get to see our Jewish Heroes scalp tons of Germans in a carefree and innocent manner, something kids would love and laugh about; we would be screaming into hell about Waffen SS soldiers doing that though. With all the brutality going on Heck they might as well have done the Nazi thing and burned some Germans alive like in the furnaces! Oh wait they did that too......

    So the idea of this movie is to enjoy watching the adventures of some Jewish Nazis, no thanks I didnt like this movie at all.
     
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