THE A-BOMB

WW2 was a total war everyone was involved, i have a friend who was shot by a german bomber in the leg and he doesnt see bombing cities as a crime even when he was bombed

 

if this war was so why not shooting pows
because they cant defend them self
i dont think that sombody in hiro or any other bombed city could defend himself

 

becuase its a rule of war aka the geneva convention n the A-bomb wasnt in the convention so it isnt a crime. also civvies r the wrk force of the war machine if there are no civvies then there is no war machine but POWs taken no further action in war

 

hey bro the geneva convetion was written a long time befor the a bomb was build

 

and is continuely updated and it still hasnt banned the bomb

 

Stalin, Tojo or Hitler would have used it...

Nagasaki was where the torpedos used at Pearl Harbor were made..

My grandfathers house in Liverpool was bombed out, he would have used it..

No question..

no question at all..

Matter of a fact he woked later in the aircraft industry designing planes specifically for such tasks..

It ended the war- Japan had no choice but to quit...

Period

game over

 

i agree that the americans were right to use the bomb. besides if the japinesse populathion didnt want a war they didnt have to have one. just look at russia in ww1.

 

What is a war crime ? War is war it isn't restricted to soldiers it's when 2 sides destroy each other , to me making rules of war is like saying , "in the event we lose are rationality we should kill each other by these ways only, agreed ".

 

yep superpatriot you are right thats what i say war is a crime the biggest ever
but a nuclear weapon is a really nasty and dirty thing that should be abandond for ever and keep it for the case that one day aliens attack but how can a human say it was right to use this thing

 

I agree with you Al Amin but the US did not know what it was totally in for by dropping those bombs. They had no idea how much devasation and how long the effects would last until after the actual incident. I hate to say it, but Hiroshima and Nagosaki were as much as tests as they were really missions and I thank god that we learned from those tests and have not fired another one, considering how many times we got so close to it.

I'm with most people here, the atom bomb, in the grand scheme of things, saved more lives than it killed.

 

aliens , they could kick are asses , unless we can find some super weapon like music (mars attacks)

 

If Aliens could annihilate us, they would have already. Supposedly they are born by the Law of the Universe that they are not allowed to interfere in our development, which if true, shows they are doing a really bad job. Well, this is really for the Paranormal thread anyways so I will stop.

 

Actually chemical & biological weaponry is far far worse than nuclear weaponry - and requires far far less bombs going off to destroy the human race.
However, such weapons continue to be used with little or no condemnation by the rest of the world (Saddam vs the Kurds is the best known example)

 

The Japanese had shown they could reach the US with their balloon bombs, although they had light payloads presumably they would have been ideal bioweapon carriers.

Has anyone heard of concerns about them being used as bioweapons carriers as it would be another reason for wanting to make sure the war was ended quickly?

I've seen the various websites that suggest the possibility but is there anything 'official'?

 

One hot summer day in the park outside Japan's Imperial Palace, I met up with Mr. Papps, an OSS Officer. His office was just a few yards down the hallway from Gen. MacArthur's office and he invited me to see his office. As I walked into his office, I saw three top American atomic scientists going over a large diagram of some kind of device. I asked Mr. Papps what it was and he said it was the actual diagram of the Japanese atomic bomb. I asked him if it was workable. He said, "Yes." It was just like ours and very workable. He also showed me some Japanese orders to use the bomb on the Allies when they came into Japanese waters; how they would do this was not explained.

From what I could tell, a German transport submarine No. 234 was on its way to Japan with plutonium to make the bomb more powerful. It was supposed to dock at Hiroshima, but I later learned that the submarine gave up to the Americans in the Atlantic - Portsmouth, NH - so they never received the plutonium, but they did have enough uranium for one bomb and were ready to use it. We dropped our bomb first.

Had we waited two weeks, the Japanese atomic bomb would have been used on our Allied fleet, and this was one of the reasons they kept dragging their feet to give up. When it became known that a third bomb would be dropped on Tokyo, they began to talk peace.

I hope that William Breuer will find the papers I saw at the OSS office because it tells a bigger story. It was really a shock to our atomic scientists to learn that the Japanese had nearly beaten us to the draw, and this is one of the reasons they would not let the story be told. We nearly lost it all, and two weeks made a big difference. I know because I personally saw the actual diagrams to the Japanese atomic bomb and they did intend to use it on us first



Film of this sub being unloaded exists..

 

I know , its Winkipedia- but I am not the only one that knows this story

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_atomic_program

fairly common knowledge..


other links too

http://vikingphoenix.com/public/JapanIn ... -abomb.htm


So. 10-20 countries have them now- What do you think- countries have spent billions, for what- to never use them..

 

check this

http://www.answers.com/topic/japanese-atomic-program

common knowledge-?

google this

Dr. Yoshio Nishina



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... tnG=Search


So. 10-20 countries have them today

What do you think- countries have spent billions, for what- to never use them..

 

Hi Stonewall, a few points -

There was no third bomb - the 2 that were used contained very nearly all the fissionable material the USA had.

I have never heard of the Japanese possessing a nuclear weapon, let alone the facilities to design & produce one. It took even the vast resources of the US a fair while to make it. Heck, Britain tried but could not afford it - we gave up our research to America. I admit that my ignorance is no reason to doubt something, but could such a resource-poor country as Japan really succeed in this, a task that thwarted both Germany & Britain?

 

Intersting links, though I admit to still deing a tad doubtful...

 

>There was no third bomb - the 2 that were used contained very nearly all the fissionable material the USA had.


I dispute that- Charles Sweney's book (Bocks Car Nagasaki/ Chase plane Hiroshima) says the materials for the FOURTH bomb was in route..

Whitesands
Hiroshima
Nagasaki
next?

I gotta run, but I have had this dicussion elsewhere and I know support for my position exists on-line

General Sweeneys book is a good read- I have a signed copy I got here in DC..

He died this year- mine is a letter bound limited edition, I spoke to him personally about this also.


http://www.ishipress.com/hopkins.htm