The Panzer Tanks

I agree with you on the T-34's simplicity, but disagree with you (still :lol: ) on the reliability of the Panther. Repair time is related to which subcomponent is damaged and to what degree it is damaged. T-34's mechanical simplcity was, IIRC, of the type that "replaces whole engines" instead of fixing them. The average life exptectancy for a T-34 was not that high, either... But those are details. Simplicity was its virtue

 

1. Are you talking about the Char series of tanks? I think I can debate that since I dont beleive they were that great. They were heavily armoured and slow
2. I think that the Tiger tank was unreliable is also myth a myth, if any tank not that is not serviced as requiered have poor reliability.

The number for the Russian tanks is pretty much 1/2 of what it really was because 1/2 was reserves and tanks unit to use. The T-34 and KV tanks were also in extremely limited numbers.

Completely agreed there is not too much diffrertence in performance and armour of the two tanks.

That is also true the Germans only had one* weapon that could penetrate the MatildaII, it was the famous 88. The Germans used to get the British tanks into traps and than destroy as many they could with theyr AT guns.
* There was more but people generally to think of only one.

Not as much as the reliabilty but the simplicity of it.

how many servicable Panthers were there after WWII? Not too many how many T-34's. A lot more plus they kept making them after the way.

That applies to the the fact that Germans had a habit of "over-engineering" their tanks. Putting in lighter and more syphysticated parts isntead of heavier easier to make parts.

 

By 1940 standards they were good, though. The Germans nicknamed them "Kolosse" (sp?).

The Panther is a better medium tank than a T-34 - thicker armor, better gun, more crew space, a higher degree of sophistication.

I think that applies to any nation. The sum total of tanks the nation has running is not the sum total of tanks actively fighting on the front... Which number do you think we should divide in half?

 

At the begining of the war when german invaded I seen several figures.

 

Could I see the one you meant should be split in half?

 

Damn making me go all the way to the library to get a stupid book, give me a day or 2. It was 30k+ I think another 8-10

 

Don't feel forced to get the source, I am not in a hurry, just interested.

 

I think he's talking about the Somua S35, though I stand ready to be corrected if he does in fact mean the Char B1. The S35 was a medium tank, and despite its one-man turret it completely outclassed the German mediums it was supposed to fight, which were mostly still Panzer IIs and 38(t)s.