The United Nation's

I can't help thinking that in the grand scheme of things 40 years is not that old. Considering on the international stage the US is regarded as a youngster flexing his muscles whilst nations like Britain, France, China and so on are the 'old dogs' as it were, an organisation of a mere 40 years is hardly 'long in the tooth.'

Has anyone considered the fact that the UN would be more successful if it recieved the support of all it's members rather than being ignored/sabotaged/lied to by nations who wish to persue their own interests regardless of the legality?

 

What you say is true of any country, corporation, or individual.
As for those who say there is a new "Paradigm Shift" and things are different now, and that the old rules do not apply....Bunk !
The rules are the same....We hold these truths to be self evident...
Nothing in our Constitution is out-dated.
What was old is new again, and vice-versa.
We were fortunate to have a mix of old and new inside to cover all the "bases", for the times when history repeats, and it does.
The same for the UN.
A good idea needs support or can be shot to pieces. The fact that it can die is not evidence that it failed, only evidence that we are human and flawed enough not to see what is good for us because of the fact.... it's inconvenient/uncomfortable at the time.....and the truth usually is.

 

You say that, though clearly the authors of the constitution meant 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness [unless they are black, homosexual, poor, vaguely arabic in appearance etc].'

 

What the media and politicians (temporary office holders) say and do is for "sensationalism", because that's what sells.
Not what is among the general populace.
You tube Nazi's, KKK, and the rest of the Jerry Springer/Cops types rule the (exported) media.
Fantasy (minor % ages) for your entertainment so they can sell you some soap/burgers.
We employ all "types" as you label them, and many you had the offensive discourtesy not to mention (PC crud), and we consider them all....employees/people.
We judge (good/bad) on merit/function/legality, not paint-jobs.

The difference between government and people is Governments don't care, people do.

Mark Twain

I'm the poor one (college X 2)

 

Doesn't really escape the fact that despite the rightious tenor of the text, it never has been enforced, nore does it reflect the opinions of most people.

 

I agree fully with your viewpoint. The money doesn't go to the kids learning math, science, grammar, history, foreign languages, geography, music. It goes to teachers being overpaid and their lovely unions(usually important crap like "My mommy has Two Daddys"). Education should be private sector, I can think of alot better ways of spending my property taxex than the government can. The more I spend and invest the more jobs are created.

Please gripe at me all you want, I was being a wise ass jokester Hopefully I got a snicker. I like soap boxes and ranges.

I am curious why did you leave Russia?

 

That is B.S.: The problem of public education is that teachers, doctors etc.. are underpaid, not overpaid, this is why so many prefer working at private schools, businesses or moving to other countries where there skills are appreciated and there are only unions in democracies.
Every country should have both public and private schools. If there were only private schools without any state control, it would be a highway getting to fundamentalism and revisionism. If there is no federal control, let there at least be a regional control, otherwise we would all get our own little educational programme telling we are right and that our neighbour is wrong. A perfect way to get a biased history with a bunch of brainwashed kids and we all know where that can lead to.

 

Because my holiday was over, I had run out of roubles and had to be back in barracks on the Wednesday

Never lived in Russia I'm afraid, unless it was some sort of joke in which case I might add 'suspected commies' and 'actors' to the list of people who according to the US government at some time were believed not to be 'created equal.'

Anyhow, this is moving OT so let's get back to discussing the UN eh?

 

Wot, wot, another pseudo commie?

Damnit, Oberst, Stefan is a reenactor! Doesn't he look too chubby and healthy to be a Krasnoarmeyets? :rodinu:

 

I'll take that as a compliment Though I note you missed out 'youthful'

 

My final thought

The ball is round. The game lasts 90 minutes. That's a fact. Everything else is pure theory, ready, begin.............Run Lola Run

 

You couldn't be more wrong. What Librarian is worth $80,000 dollars a year? What teacher is worth $65,000? Answer none.

A classic example of false economy to scale derived from extortion, ah er collective bargaining.

That's exactly what it is now, it needs to be reading, writing and arithmetic.

Nonsense,
When are you people going to learn the government doesn't control you, you control the government. By the people for the people.

Yes with your system it has lead just to that alot of Global(boring) Warming socialist hogwash and the lowest academic scores in history. Your plan has worked well making more unintelligent people dependent and your voting block.

Well taking economic and educational advice from a Frenchmen is like ordering a crème brûlée from McDonalds it just doesn't happen.

But thank goodness there are some intelligent people in France and perhaps they are on track to save their picturesque country from bankruptcy.

This ties in nicely with the UN which suffers from the same world order delusions.

Noooooooo really, I didn't know there were Russian reenactors, goodness me

Hmm.... picture, if it is him, forget the uniform, I'd say Scandanavian, Baltic States, Pole, Rusland....the name Stefan fits and so does the ideal politik.

Doesn't look like an Englishman but maybe that's just me...

Then again anyone can type or be just about anyone they wish on a PC so then that line of detective work goes out the window.

How longs your leg now?

 

Wow! Them's fighting words! I'd start by immediately returning the Lady in Liberty Island!

"Long enough to reach the ground"

 

Take her or better yet what have you got to trade


Ha Ha i guess that's what the purple heart was for.LOL

 

I don't know what's wrong with you Mr anti-education, anti-teacher, anti- librarian. Maybe you should go burn books like intelligent people like you do, since those who have a different opinion are apparently either stupid, French, or Socialist. Since you think that knowledge does not deserve pay, I wouldn't want to live in your utopic country.
When talking to someone who knows how smart I am, my nationality , the party I vote for without even knowing me, what can I say... Maybe you should read some of my posts before calling me stupid or socialist.
If you are not ready for a constructive dialogue, I suggest you built a new forum with no teachers and get the highest academic scores in the world.
If you have complaints about your country's educational system, complain to your authorities, not me , I've got nothing to do with it, I however believe that there are many ways to serve one's country and sharing knowledge is a noble way, whether localy or within the UN. If you are constructive I shall be happy to discuss the matter with you again, but insulting people isn't the best way, really believe the Panzer Penguin.

 

Better having the UNO, than being dependent on the hidden agenda of any superpower (read nuclear power), especialy lead by corrupt / fanatic / authoritarian / stupid individuals.

 

Are you sure? I can't help thinking that the person educating your child is pretty vauable.

But of course if the only way a group can make a fair deal for themselves, what is wrong with collective bargaining?

That I agree with, though I would add 'manners' to the curriculum. However, is private education the way to be sure of this?

Such conviction in the face of overwhelming evidence

Now THIS makes me laugh, having seen the 'quality' of student dumped upon the street by the US education system as compared to that of the French education system, I hesitate to suggest you are in error.

Easy mistake to make, won't blame you.

Worrying as it is that you pictured me without clothing, there are several fatal flaws in your logic that I'm sure appear obvious now. As for the 'not looking like an Englishman' I can't help not being surprised that you fall so easily into steryotypes.

Indeed, what none of you know is that actually I am Nosferatu himself.

 

Worrying that so few have good experiences with the UN. Perhaps it is because you are all from superpowers. Well I come from Norway a small (in population) country. And the UN is quite popular here.

The friction in the UN can be frustrating. The boon is that UN sanctions are not based on proof found in outdated schoolpapers. The downside is that people suffer and die whilst the member countries are frigging about in the UN office, rather than acting. (why not opt for my granfathers view: Join the Brits they are always right. (He has some problems in explaining the Suez buisiness though))

Norwegians have a high proportion of citizens that have been in Blue Helmet Operations. In my family we have three.